Gang,
I am stumped, and hope someone here can address this. I'm honestly not casting any aspersions... I just want to figure out the process through which some questionable stuff, knowingly created, finds its way here.
How do two seemingly-long-time board members post with the exact same image, conveying the exact same (already addressed & answered) misconception, at the exact same time here?
https://greatawakening.win/p/12hRj5WYyt/the-state-of-the-state-of-the-un/ https://greatawakening.win/p/12hRj5WI44/holy-shirt-boys-and-girls--i-tho/c/
Questions get asked, and answered, and re-asked, and re-answered here all the time. It's a little tiresome, and could definitely be largely remedied by an improved Search function that did more than just search New Post titles, but it is what it is. And, upon searching the Internet for "why is joe biden's state of the union speech listed as unofficial", I've discovered that this answer isn't readily available to the casual searcher. So I have no problem with this underlying question. So much weird stuff in DC, and it's great when we can collective answer some of it. ?
My real questions are:
- How would two different people end up with same image, and the same misconception, and be compelled to post it at the same time?
- What's the source of this stuff? Is there some mailing list, twitter feed, Telegramph thingy that folks belong to, which knowingly pumps this out and that well-meaning folks then breathlessly bring here?
If there is an external source that is creating material (yes, it's just a screenshot with "Unofficial" highlighted, but it logically had to have been created by someone other than the two posters) to spread distracting disinfo... that's really not a trustworthy source to be following.
This certainly isn't the first time I've seen this phenomenon, of disinfo-perpetuating images showing up hear near-simultaneously. It's just the first time I've bothered to ask. (And yes, I directly asked the two OPs where this image came from... I just haven't heard back from either yet. And neither cited the source of the marked-up screenshot image in their posts.)
Dont worry so much why two people posted the same image at the same time. I just saw that image on some telegram account and thought - wow cool - but when I searched about it, realised it was a nothingburger.
I know you are thinking there is some strange conspiracy of disinformation going around to purposefully deceive people here. That may happen from time to time, but in this case I believe its a new image that caught people's attention and compelled them to post it without checking.
Ideally, what would be more useful is posting a simple one liner: "Do NOT fall for the SOTU red herring, even Trump's first SOTU was deemed onofficial."
That would be infinitely more useful for a casual reader!
No, that's explicitly not what I was saying.
This was just the latest iteration of this phenomenon I have seen repeated many, many times. I wasn't attributing conspiratorial motives... just following up on suspicious curiosity at where this stuff was coming from. I would imagine I'm not the only one who has wondered this, so rather than letting it go unexamined, I examined it. That's kind of what we do here, fren.
And when I learned it's evidently being trafficked over from conspiracies.win, I smacked myself in the forehead as I realized "Oh, man, that should have been obvious to me."
Of course your one-line answer is easier, and in an isolated case, absolutely the right way to go. But it would never have answered the larger question: where are all these people getting the same distracting, misleading notions?
I'm very glad to now know the answer.
And you're welcome.
And each time, it will be a different source. There are endless supply of them as far as disinfo is concerned !
Yes. And no. And it doesn't matter.
Yes, in that you're clearly right in that there are indeed endless sources of disinfo.
No, in that I believe a lot of this action, with multiple people excited at the same time to share the latest disinfo that tickled their inclinations, is indeed bubbled up through the discernment-allergic conspiracies.win.
And it doesn't matter, in that this will obviously keep happening until this place develops and inculcates a shared culture of rigor, discernment, and verification, which asks posters to do a bare minimum of research before propagating information. It's hardly a heavy ask, but is certainly anathema to the "It's muh right to post whatever I want here and then everyone just can sort it out on their own" crowd.