I was inpired by a post this morning I saw that said to call Dems/libs “corporate fascists”. I’m going to do that, but what if we started calling ourselves “Trump liberals”. Everything we stand for is an action form of what Dems claim to want: no endless/meaningless wars, we treat everyone as equals, we don’t want to fund other governments and instead take care of our own people, we take care of the environment through conservation...
What are your thoughts?
I'll just never call myself a liberal of any kind. I think "Trump Patriot" would be a much more fitting title if you need one. You are right that: > Everything we stand for is an action form of what Dems claim to want: no endless/meaningless wars, we treat everyone as equals, we don’t want to fund other governments and instead take care of our own people, we take care of the environment through conservation... --however, Dems are liars and hypocrites as a bottom line. There's nothing I'm going to do for/to/because of/about any of them - I won't waste my time or energy.
This could be an opportunity to take back the true nature of what liberals virtue signaling about their entire lives
I do see your point, I just think that they have sullied the word "liberal" to such an extent, it will be hard to garner support of such a thing.
Let’s take it back. It’s a subtle way of fighting back- they aren’t going to control everything including language and basic definitions from now on
I see your point. And yes it's a good thing to push back and stop allowing them to control the narrative. Although the more I think about it, given what's happening now, I can't help but think a Trump Liberal might be more fitting for all the lefties getting red-pilled and realizing Trump was actually the good guy. It would set them apart from the rest of us who knew that all along. Ya think? :) Very nice spitballing with you though - I hope you have a good day!
Great convo! Thanks for the thoughts and I agree, the red pilled masses could ease into the idea of not being woke, but instead awake by feeling comfortable in their “liberal” label bubble but attaching Trump to the front. I understand it is very difficult to get people to just switch sides after demonizing Trump supporters for so long.
It's hard to admit that one was wrong. And to be fair, after being demonized by these people for so long, how much would you trust one that suddenly says he's on our side now? It's a tough situation on all sides I suppose.
True. But the Trump Liberal label sure would cause a lot of head explosions and generate discussion.
LOL yes it would!
i thoguht about this too...equality, democracy and environment conservation arent bad.... the "liberals" have just hijacked it and made it into a stepping stone for evil. "liberal" is now just a label, and not really what they truly stand for.
Id make it a thing, it would make them REEE at first, and then maybe theyd start getting lightbulb moments
Independent country, independent voter, Independent Party. No reason to become anything else.
You don’t have to register as a Democrat, although I would recommend it because there are two sets of laws based on your voter registration.
This is just to start a conversation and getting people to think.
You make a good point. The reality is a high percentage of both parties are actually corporatists. They do a little dance to make us believe they are adversaries. So existing labels on either side have been corrupted.
I see nothing wrong with the term Populist. Originally Bernie Sanders was a Populist, albeit with true leftist policy positions. He used to be for strong immigration control. He started to give his Populist positions up when he ran as a Dem.
It's just my express opinion, but if you get a bunch of people going around calling people names, how is that any different than the left? I feel like there is a better approach to it then simply verbally harassing people.
Example: Wear a cool tshirt, when the leftest of lefts lash out at you first, you are ready to roll with it, cause you came hungry for beef. This is just my version of damage control. If you throw the first stone, you are guilty.
In that example you are definitely doing exactly what a “Trump _____ (any party)” would do. But saying that a modern liberal is a corporate fascist is a factual truth and describing yourself as a Trump liberal is a factual truth based on evidence. The left isn’t what we used to call the left anymore. The goal is to get NPC’s to think. You don’t have to say “corporate fascist” in a hostile way. Just back it up with facts.
Your general idea of an appealing discriptor is good. Unfortunately "liberal" is a mess right now, the original classic liberals aren't the same as the progressive liberals. Maybe calling conservatives liberals would just cause confusion. Sorry atm I haven't got a great suggestion.
call myself a Liberal - you must be fckn joking, seriously.
I'm closer to a non-political Libertarian, no government, only clerical-administration is required type of guy.
once labels get affixed, division follows, that's the whole point of labels.
This is a great example to highlight that NPC’s are obsessed with labels and not the actual content and actions of people. This could potentially lead to getting rid of these meaningless labels.
So why not say “Trump Libs” and subtly force the conversation/examination?
It's interesting you posted this. I was thinking along similar lines. We've been using the term "Conservative" for a long time. I don't know about you, but I don't want to conserve what we currently have in the nation. I want to go back to better times. I want to "Build Backwards Better" towards the original Constitution.
That is hilarious.
Just to add a little bit- the purpose would be to force NPC’s to try to deboonk cause they don’t want to agree with a Trump supporter for any reason AND it separates us from RINO’s who the left lives to use to undermine the truth by saying “eVeN mItT rOmNeY aNd MiTcH mCcOnNeLl AgReE wItH uS!!”