Found on Reddit: people generally not seeing anything wrong with pedophilia
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I struggle with this because when i was 14 everyone around me was having sex and the only way it got demonized is when the girl fucked the whole school.
Nobody was on social media either. I grew up in the era of flip phones so no stranger was giving their opinoin on someones business like they do now meaning no one saw this is an actual problem(which it is)
I think we need to stop shutting down conversations. We dont have to normalize it to see that this person makes valid points. We can be agaisnt pedophilla while also aknowledge that there are details that need to be addressed. In some countries it reallly is age 14 were ur considered an adult and some boys do know exactly what they are doing at that age. I seen it first hand while growing up. It is a fact that some people are more mature than others. Again. None of those things make being a pedo a good thing but we need to shine a light on what really goes on to actually stop pedophilla because it doesnt just happen. There are multiple factors to everything and they need to be considered.
For example when i was 14 i was dating a girl that was 16. If we stayed together as soon as she turned 18 she wouldve been dating a minor(me). There is many combinations of ages that can be considred demonized in this day and age compared to 15 years ago and vise versa.
Again for you fuckers that might no understand i DO NOT SUPPORT HIS POSITION WHEN HE SAYS ITS NOT WRONG. Im simply saying that we should have a healthy dialogue around this because it gets toxic quick and i think that actually hurts our movement agaisnt it. I feel like we can fight it more effectively if we knew the inner workings of it and why it actually happens. Grooming is more complicated than what people like to admit
You are an enabler and part of the problem.
I knew someone asshole wouldn't get it. Point out where i enabled it? I denounced it more than once. If anything YOU. Are the enabler for letting details get swept under the rug. Without knowledge people cant make informed decisions wether they are the adult in the situation or not.
You know how.mamy times i seen relationships go under the radar because people with good intentions didnt understand certain social cues? The same people that love to claim to be agaisnt it most likely enabled it at some point
And ill give you an example. My friend when he was 16 was dating a 30yr old women. Back in the day if that happened to you while you that age you were considered cool. Now that hes grown up hes fucked up over it because he knew he was not.only talen advatage of but robbed of his could be kid to abortion.
In order to stop pedophilla young boys and girls need to know why these things happen in great detail. Adults need to learn the social cues in order to stop it as well because its very possible for an older person to talk to a younger one in mulitple different types of situations without making it obvious
And finnaly you dont fucking know me from a hole in the wall how fucking dare you call me an enabler. Everything i told you really happened to me.
Bullshit. These girls were exploited. And you excuse it for bullshit reasons.
You aren't "listening"
I agree with you.
This forum goes batshit over pediphilia, but it's all hate and little substance in this case I'm afraid.
First, we need to distinguish between blatant pedo and non-blatant. There's a HUGE difference between a 30 year old molesting a 6 year old, and an 18 year old dating a 16 year old.
There are countries where sex with 14 year olds is LEGAL. It isn't pedophilia in those countries, not legally anyway. In fact, we have a very long history of sex and pregnancy happening between 12-16. Anybody read the Bible...?
The way to address this isn't with knee jerk emotional responses like a bunch of leftards.
Look at the reality of the global situation. Look at the reality of human development. Identify a gold standard that we should strive for. Develop compelling arguments to support this standard.
Young people oftentimes want to be sexually active. I did. Many of my friends did. Having some adult come in and try tell me what to do with my body really just produced the opposite response from me.
We've got a lot of people with their heart in the right place but their heads stuck in this moral absolutism and anger.
How about we don't just bitch and threaten people on the internet for disagreeing with our moralization of a topic. That's weak...
I think there's a line most people can agree with as being disgusting. I don't think that was what the Redditor was taking about. I'm annoyed to see so many people flipping out and virtue signaling here.
Why do you and the poster above keep coming back to “other countries” and their differing ages of consent? We don’t give a fuck what backwards shit other countries do; this is a US-centric board, and in the US this shit is not kosher.
The “blatant vs. non-blatant” pedophilia argument is also a total strawman, and I think you’re actually disingenuously representing the MAGA argument here. We’re obviously talking about adult sexualization of young children — not the instances in which 16 year olds and 18 year olds are dating, which is common.
If the OP on Reddit had clarified, we might be able to have a productive conversation. But that’s his job; and his problem, not ours, that he didn’t qualify his argument well enough. It is not obvious to me at all what he apparently meant, so it’s no surprise most of us are reacting negatively to the post. When you title a post “What’s wrong with pedophilia?” full-stop without any qualifiers other than “as long as they’re not raping anyone and have consent,” and “what even is a child anyway,” we are going to side-eye it / rail against it — and I see absolutely nothing wrong with that.
Pedophilic actions are generally taken to mean “rape and without consent” (which is saying the same thing twice, btw) and if you’re talking about something else or trying to redefine the meaning of the word child or even the word pedophilia, it’s up to you to clarify. In fact, the redditor specifically mentions prepubescent boys near the end, so your entire defense is null and void.
I mean, for fuck’s sake. If we have to explain who is considered a child in the United States of America, you are not worthy of engaging on this subject. We do not need to identify a gold standard — it is obvious, it already exists, and any inherently moral person does not need this explained to them.
Christian moral absolutism is the foundation of this country, whether you like it or not. And it is the exact opposite of what makes us weak.
You're right. That title combined with the lack of context for the "adult's" age difference makes it seem predatory.
You are the reason why so many kids got abused when i was younger because people refused to talk about it. Yes you do have to explain it because when i grew up. Nothing was explained to me. Ever. Everyone around me in school were already adults. 13 yr olds slinging coke and weed in the bathroom. 16 yr olds fucking in the stair cases of the schools. Kids dont have guidance on this shit and the normal people who just go about their day dont have guidance either.
We know what a child is but the next person might not for example some parents actually let age gap relationships slip under the table because they "know" the guy well enough. Thats a problem and people like you stop good information from reaching people like that parent that allows it to happen.