Hey fren... no... I don't trust the government to start executing anyone ok. They are corrupt. What you are calling for it will turn into #metool all over again where #metoo got corrupted into a tool for dealing with political adversaries. So just... no.
Right... so the point I was getting at with Love, is that for now the point he/she is making is perhaps weakened by the proposed solution given that he/she is talking to loads of people that do not trust the government at this particular point in time. I was arguing the efficacy of the point they are making saying it would probably go over better without the second half of it attached. That is all. They said they didn't want to give up that part of the position because they feel strongly about it, in a fixed system, to which I said ok. So in terms of winning I simply pointed out that IMO "Funding an abortion is no different than hiring a hitman" was the winning point and proposing the solution was just detracting from that statement because you will lose people at that point. Not all people, just people.
Ok so next question... serial murderers are different than regular murderers in that the sheer number of victims provides in most cases, enough evidence, correlations, and sometimes even confessions so that we are(were?) reasonably sure we have the right criminal. However the depth of corruption that I think I am seeing right now has me questioning everything, I have to admit it's getting real weird. Also just read your comment about me getting twisted, yeah a bit, but the Lord will probably come through with some clarity soon. Have a good day Light nice chatting with you as always.
I was arguing the efficacy of the point they are making saying it would probably go over better without the second half of it attached. That is all.
I can meet you there. You're actually right.
So in terms of winning I simply pointed out that IMO "Funding an abortion is no different than hiring a hitman" was the winning point and proposing the solution was just detracting from that statement because you will lose people at that point. Not all people, just people.
While I don't necessarily disagree with OP, the second part 100% sidetracks from the main point, in which you're right.
Ok so next question... serial murderers are different than regular murderers in that the sheer number of victims provides in most cases, enough evidence, correlations, and sometimes even confessions so that we are(were?) reasonably sure we have the right criminal.
I could've stated that better, I wasn't trying to make a point about serial murders specifically, but just heinous crimes worthy of execution. I 100% agree with you though on the point you're making here.
However the depth of corruption that I think I am seeing right now has me questioning everything, I have to admit it's getting real weird. Also just read your comment about me getting twisted, yeah a bit, but the Lord will probably come through with some clarity soon. Have a good day Light nice chatting with you as always.
It has us all twisted. It's incredibly difficult sometimes, and I'm not innocent at all. We all need to lean on the Lord more.
At the end of the day, the eternal government is on his shoulders. He will rule with an Iron Rod and we will have no more problems. One Day!
Now when I read this -paying for abortion is paying for a hitman- that part is good it's well within the parameters of a propaganda slogan just so you are aware, it's playing on emotions instead of logic but it is effective. I honestly would ditch the part where you propose the solution is death and that you are going to trust a man made institution to carry it out as it is unneeded to make your point and in my own opinion it harms the argument. Even a functioning system ordered around God would not be impervious to human errors. Besides this heavy handed tactic never works I'm flipping old I know it doesn't work. What you want is to change hearts and that can't happen by doling out punishments. Just look at the difference between the Old and New Testament, God tried the holy fire thing it didn't work.
Everyone should be scared of God's wrath you are correct. However look at the other comments you are creeping people out jumping the shark so to speak on the punishment you prescribe. I am just pointing out that if you want to win people over on this forum you should walk it back.
Hey fren... no... I don't trust the government to start executing anyone ok. They are corrupt. What you are calling for it will turn into #metool all over again where #metoo got corrupted into a tool for dealing with political adversaries. So just... no.
what about serial murderers?
do you trust the government to execute them?
stop thinking only in terms of overbloated government. Government is not bad. Government is instituted by God.
BAD government is bad. Sadly, this is most of it.
Right... so the point I was getting at with Love, is that for now the point he/she is making is perhaps weakened by the proposed solution given that he/she is talking to loads of people that do not trust the government at this particular point in time. I was arguing the efficacy of the point they are making saying it would probably go over better without the second half of it attached. That is all. They said they didn't want to give up that part of the position because they feel strongly about it, in a fixed system, to which I said ok. So in terms of winning I simply pointed out that IMO "Funding an abortion is no different than hiring a hitman" was the winning point and proposing the solution was just detracting from that statement because you will lose people at that point. Not all people, just people.
Ok so next question... serial murderers are different than regular murderers in that the sheer number of victims provides in most cases, enough evidence, correlations, and sometimes even confessions so that we are(were?) reasonably sure we have the right criminal. However the depth of corruption that I think I am seeing right now has me questioning everything, I have to admit it's getting real weird. Also just read your comment about me getting twisted, yeah a bit, but the Lord will probably come through with some clarity soon. Have a good day Light nice chatting with you as always.
I can meet you there. You're actually right.
While I don't necessarily disagree with OP, the second part 100% sidetracks from the main point, in which you're right.
I could've stated that better, I wasn't trying to make a point about serial murders specifically, but just heinous crimes worthy of execution. I 100% agree with you though on the point you're making here.
It has us all twisted. It's incredibly difficult sometimes, and I'm not innocent at all. We all need to lean on the Lord more.
At the end of the day, the eternal government is on his shoulders. He will rule with an Iron Rod and we will have no more problems. One Day!
Now when I read this -paying for abortion is paying for a hitman- that part is good it's well within the parameters of a propaganda slogan just so you are aware, it's playing on emotions instead of logic but it is effective. I honestly would ditch the part where you propose the solution is death and that you are going to trust a man made institution to carry it out as it is unneeded to make your point and in my own opinion it harms the argument. Even a functioning system ordered around God would not be impervious to human errors. Besides this heavy handed tactic never works I'm flipping old I know it doesn't work. What you want is to change hearts and that can't happen by doling out punishments. Just look at the difference between the Old and New Testament, God tried the holy fire thing it didn't work.
Everyone should be scared of God's wrath you are correct. However look at the other comments you are creeping people out jumping the shark so to speak on the punishment you prescribe. I am just pointing out that if you want to win people over on this forum you should walk it back.
you're insane