Abortion is a huge can of worms. I try to view it from a science point of view. When you reach the point (which doctors could very easily define) were the baby has greater than a 50/50 chance of surviving being born premature then you are crossing a ton of lines just based on pure science. Meaning if the mother really wanted the baby out of her body period end of issue the baby would actually have a good chance of survival if you just prematurely delivered it. Yet they kill it in the womb and then vacuum it out? That is utterly insane. You are putting the mothers desire ahead of the fetuses life. Its not medically necessary. 99% of the time the mother is in no danger because of the baby. They just find it inconvenient. By that standard I should be about to execute someone who steals my parking space. It was inconvenient to me.

When you add in the fact that the people who are pushing women into getting abortions are profiting from it and the government who is regulating it is using the parts that result from the abortions. Plus the politicians are getting their cut. So what's next are we going to kill jobless people and give their organs to productive members of society? Its just insane. Its evil.

If some woman who is in the first trimester wants to get an abortion fine great that's on her. That's her moral choice etc. These body parts aren't coming from 6 week old fetuses. They have to allow the baby to grow a little to get those parts. Its all a scam to make money and the babies are the ones dying to make it all happen. The difference between this and things like trafficking child sex slaves seems almost non-existent to me.

But sense the government says its okay then its legal... and we are back to people worshiping the government... and if the government says its okay then its moral. See how that works. There is no moral framework of any kind. They can and will justify anything they feel like doing. There is no such thing as too far. Just look at China. Best anyone can tell they are harvesting organs from political prisoners.

Thus my comment. This isn't about god. You don't need god to be a moral person. You simply need a good moral framework. That can be based on a number of things or possibly even a combinations of things. These Marxist lunatics aren't getting that framework from logic or science or even borrowing it from religion. There are plenty of alternate ways to view a moral framework that for the most part works that has nothing to do with god. No these people are getting their morals from Marxist professors who have brainwashed them to believe anything the government bureaucracy approves of is moral.

One of my biggest complaints about various atheists movements is they tend to want to get rid of god but then don't bother to replace any of the social norms that religions generally fill in like having a sense of morality. Of course I now understand many of them do have a replacement in mind. They want people to be mindless a-moral drones that the government can program to do any task it deems is needed. You might know them as useful idiots.

Me? I'm a big fan of the golden rule... except I take it to another level. Do unto others as you would have them do unto you. If I was a defenseless 6 months old fetus I wouldn't want someone to chop me up and sell me for parts. But see I also view it as instructive. Someone points a gun at me with the clear intent to shoot me... I assume they want me to shoot them. I do to them what they do to me. So clearly a person who chops up defenseless babies and sells them for parts wants me to chop them up and sell their organs... :) A firing squad will have to do though. The golden rule works both ways for me. Its a very simple way to view life but its served me well.