Oh the principled...where would we be without the principled...
If he is guilty he should pay. I believe he should be presumed innocent until proven otherwise. A "principled" step down only serves to cast doubt on the person. I don't know enough about Gaetz to have an opinion either way but this whole thing just smells...
Agreed -- this is America and we believe in innocent before proven guilty. This should be true of all politicians no matter their party. It's just too easy to be caught up in online communities and just jump to conclusions. A good reminder that we need evidence regardless whether they are republicans or dems.
The forces behind the allegations will do anything to keep up the pressure including threats to anyone around Gaetz. They don’t want this resolved in court.
I dont understand the Gaetz situation; he has always seemed weird to me but I assumed if he was elected under Trump he was "good" - I am now realizing Trump set some people up to be exposed.
Is Gaetz bad, or is this the another situation of blame your opponent of what you are guilty of?
There's too little information. All we know is an investigation exists and it was leaked, as usual, to the NY Times by the feds. Then there's Gaetz claims of attempted extortion, which so far we just have his word on. Just need to wait and see how things shake out.
hopefully they are just getting the normies to say they hate pedos and "traffickers" right before they expose the real ones lol.. that would be hilarious
Maybe this is Trump playing 4D chess again. He says "leave Matt Gaetz alone" but maybe that was his way of saying we need to look more closely at him without being explicit?
Is there real evidence? I am waiting for facts and in the meantime I support him. If evidence comes out to prove this accusation then he is dead to me.
Agreed. We need hard evidence before jumping to any conclusions. This is true of republicans and dems. We can't get carried away and just accuse people of things because we don't like their politics.
Why are we so quick to dismiss this?!! Don't we want to out those that are harming children? Is that not our goal? Could we have been blinded by his "support" for DJT when in reality he was hiding his crimes?! This is the Gaet(z) we were looking for
Oh the principled...where would we be without the principled...
If he is guilty he should pay. I believe he should be presumed innocent until proven otherwise. A "principled" step down only serves to cast doubt on the person. I don't know enough about Gaetz to have an opinion either way but this whole thing just smells...
Agree. A principled person would wait for the investigation and see what the outcome is.
Agreed -- this is America and we believe in innocent before proven guilty. This should be true of all politicians no matter their party. It's just too easy to be caught up in online communities and just jump to conclusions. A good reminder that we need evidence regardless whether they are republicans or dems.
The forces behind the allegations will do anything to keep up the pressure including threats to anyone around Gaetz. They don’t want this resolved in court.
I dont understand the Gaetz situation; he has always seemed weird to me but I assumed if he was elected under Trump he was "good" - I am now realizing Trump set some people up to be exposed.
Is Gaetz bad, or is this the another situation of blame your opponent of what you are guilty of?
There's too little information. All we know is an investigation exists and it was leaked, as usual, to the NY Times by the feds. Then there's Gaetz claims of attempted extortion, which so far we just have his word on. Just need to wait and see how things shake out.
hopefully they are just getting the normies to say they hate pedos and "traffickers" right before they expose the real ones lol.. that would be hilarious
Trump said to leave Matty Gaetz alone. (No sauce-can't remember where I read it)
This is possibly a Pelosi "wrap-up smear" - leak a story to the press and then use the news piece to prove the allegation.
Maybe this is Trump playing 4D chess again. He says "leave Matt Gaetz alone" but maybe that was his way of saying we need to look more closely at him without being explicit?
Daily Mail now saying that an arrest is imminent. They might be jumping the gun, could mean anything.
Definitely jumping the gun, but if Greenberg has actually flipped on Matt Gaetz, that's something I haven't seen reported before now.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9430921/Matt-Gaetzs-arrest-imminent-sources-say-Joel-Greenberg-singing-feds.html
The Daily Mail do have a habit of over-hyping/speculation like this then rolling back a bit. Gives them a big headline then the news cycle moves on.
Yes, and they're citing 'The New York Times' and 'The Daily Beast' for much of the information in their story.
Is there real evidence? I am waiting for facts and in the meantime I support him. If evidence comes out to prove this accusation then he is dead to me.
Agreed. We need hard evidence before jumping to any conclusions. This is true of republicans and dems. We can't get carried away and just accuse people of things because we don't like their politics.
Ditto.
Aww now I miss Rush
Why are we so quick to dismiss this?!! Don't we want to out those that are harming children? Is that not our goal? Could we have been blinded by his "support" for DJT when in reality he was hiding his crimes?! This is the Gaet(z) we were looking for