Your average 40 foot container filled full of stuff is probibly twice what a Chinook can lift. The container alone(8,598 lb(3,900 kg)) is a little over one third of its lifting ability. Maximum gross weight 68,008 lb (30,848 kg), almost 3 times a Chinook's lifting ability.
Pretty much every heavy lift helicopter on the planet maxes out in the 10-15 ton range (20-30,000 lbs). If you ever see them lifting containers they are most likely empty or filled with light bulky things like toilet paper.
Capacity: up to 5 total people[b] / 20,000 lb (9,100 kg) payload
Which still is less than the Chinook. Its large dual rotors make it by far the best option 90% of the time. A few Russian designs similar to the S-64 can lift more but they are huge monster single rotor deals that frankly are a little lacking in other areas like fuel, range, etc.
Like you I used to think helicopters were these amazing things that could lift mountains. When you really look at the numbers you suddenly realize your average F-350 truck can haul more further than most helos.
20,000 kg (44,000 lb) cargo Possibly, but at best you will have two of them rotating back and forth. They are so large they would run into each other otherwise. The ship's container capacity is 20,124 TEU. So 10k 40ft containers. Let's say 2 mi-26 rotating can move one container every 10 min = 100,000 minutes = 1,666.66 hours = 69.44 days = enough jet fuel I can't even calculate it. And that's operating 24 hours a day. If you are limited to 14 hours or so of usable daylight you're talking 4-5 months of work.
I'm really trying not to rein on you guys parade but what you're talking about is impractical. Sure if moving a few dozen containers by air is really needed it can be done, but a whole ship is just a massive task.
I will admit the one advantage is that all of this would take place at sea level so the helicopters are dealing with nice thick air and would have maximum lifting capability. See that 55k lbs at the bottom. That is for sure 95% of the containers but it would still take forever to unload 10k of them.
I commented about this a few days ago when she was good and stuck. I figured two at most flying from opposite ends could move half of the containers...maybe a few more,..in 5 or 6 months. Takes big equipment. Bigger than most deck mounted cranes can deal with.
True. If they spent just a few weeks and moved say 10-15% of the load that might have lightened the ship enough to get it unstuck. Not a totally insane plan. The Mi-10R would be capable of that, especially if it had a handful of other heavy lift helos to handle the lighter containers. I'm sure Russia would have loved to have bragging rights.
The best heavy lift helicopter on the planet is the Mi-10R and it can lift 55k... so if we divide by 50k we get 11,723.12. So fully loaded figure like what 15,000 helicopters? Add in another 2-3k to lift all the chains you'd need. Man would that be cool to see. We should try this...:)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing_CH-47_Chinook#Specifications_(CH-47F)
Empty weight: 24,578 lb (11,148 kg) Max takeoff weight: 50,000 lb (22,680 kg) Capacity: 24,000 lb (10,886 kg) payload
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intermodal_container#Specifications
Your average 40 foot container filled full of stuff is probibly twice what a Chinook can lift. The container alone(8,598 lb(3,900 kg)) is a little over one third of its lifting ability. Maximum gross weight 68,008 lb (30,848 kg), almost 3 times a Chinook's lifting ability.
Pretty much every heavy lift helicopter on the planet maxes out in the 10-15 ton range (20-30,000 lbs). If you ever see them lifting containers they are most likely empty or filled with light bulky things like toilet paper.
CH53 is yhe better Helo for that kind of weight.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sikorsky_CH-53_Sea_Stallion#Specifications_(CH-53D)
Capacity: 38 troops (55 in alternate configuration) or 24 stretchers / 8,000 lb (3,600 kg) payload
Not even close. You sure you aren't thinking about this...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sikorsky_S-64_Skycrane#Specifications_(S-64E)
Capacity: up to 5 total people[b] / 20,000 lb (9,100 kg) payload
Which still is less than the Chinook. Its large dual rotors make it by far the best option 90% of the time. A few Russian designs similar to the S-64 can lift more but they are huge monster single rotor deals that frankly are a little lacking in other areas like fuel, range, etc.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mil_Mi-10#World_records
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mil_Mi-26#Specifications_(Mi-26)
Like you I used to think helicopters were these amazing things that could lift mountains. When you really look at the numbers you suddenly realize your average F-350 truck can haul more further than most helos.
My bad. Apparently the E model is a beast.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sikorsky_CH-53E_Super_Stallion#Specifications_(CH-53E)
External payload: 36,000 lb (16,329 kg)
Still that is nowhere near enough to unload thousands of containers... some of which will weigh 50,000 lbs.
90 % of the containers are well within the lift capacity of the M-26
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mil_Mi-26#Specifications_(Mi-26)
20,000 kg (44,000 lb) cargo Possibly, but at best you will have two of them rotating back and forth. They are so large they would run into each other otherwise. The ship's container capacity is 20,124 TEU. So 10k 40ft containers. Let's say 2 mi-26 rotating can move one container every 10 min = 100,000 minutes = 1,666.66 hours = 69.44 days = enough jet fuel I can't even calculate it. And that's operating 24 hours a day. If you are limited to 14 hours or so of usable daylight you're talking 4-5 months of work.
I'm really trying not to rein on you guys parade but what you're talking about is impractical. Sure if moving a few dozen containers by air is really needed it can be done, but a whole ship is just a massive task.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ever_Given#Description
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twenty-foot_equivalent_unit
I will admit the one advantage is that all of this would take place at sea level so the helicopters are dealing with nice thick air and would have maximum lifting capability. See that 55k lbs at the bottom. That is for sure 95% of the containers but it would still take forever to unload 10k of them.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mil_Mi-10#World_records
I commented about this a few days ago when she was good and stuck. I figured two at most flying from opposite ends could move half of the containers...maybe a few more,..in 5 or 6 months. Takes big equipment. Bigger than most deck mounted cranes can deal with.
True. If they spent just a few weeks and moved say 10-15% of the load that might have lightened the ship enough to get it unstuck. Not a totally insane plan. The Mi-10R would be capable of that, especially if it had a handful of other heavy lift helos to handle the lighter containers. I'm sure Russia would have loved to have bragging rights.
How many Chinook's to lift the whole boat? or do we not want it ashore again?Happy Frog has Chinooked eyes
2, or 70
Heh. The whole boat... fully loaded?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ever_Given#Description
Displacement: 265,876 t (586,156,000 lb)
The best heavy lift helicopter on the planet is the Mi-10R and it can lift 55k... so if we divide by 50k we get 11,723.12. So fully loaded figure like what 15,000 helicopters? Add in another 2-3k to lift all the chains you'd need. Man would that be cool to see. We should try this...:)
u/#conspiracy