Not dooming, just saying. This is to big to ignore. Humanity is at stake.
EDIT: I just want to make clear that i agree with some of you guys that it might just be all LARP from DS shill etc. But only keeping a window open for the unknown..
Not dooming, just saying. This is to big to ignore. Humanity is at stake.
EDIT: I just want to make clear that i agree with some of you guys that it might just be all LARP from DS shill etc. But only keeping a window open for the unknown..
To be honest I'm pretty skeptical of the whole vaccine shedding. I have worked with bacteria and virus in labs. I know what viral shedding is supposed to be. But now they're trying to say "vaccine shedding"? It's a pretty sketchy area and yet its getting blasted around here now as gospel truth. I love theories, but I don't trust ones that you're not allowed to question. Usually those are the ones propagated by the Deep State via shills.
I have read through their "evidence" and I am just not buying it. I notice the shedding stuff started getting blasted around when Pfizer vaccine and prions started popping up. The DS really went into panic mode to silence that talk. Suddenly it was drowned out with "shedding". The prion stuff has a really good case behind it. Mad Cow disease, kuru, ect are all prion disease. An mRNA vaccine that makes proteins could easily be used to slip prions into people. It would be years before the effects would show and they'd never connect it to the vaccine.
Watch what happens if you question the shedding stuff.
Isn't it ironic that the end result of the "shedding" stuff is that we must also avoid contact, social distance, and avoid people? We laughed at Karens for hugging their grandparents through sheets of plastic.
How ironic if we end up no different than the Karens because more "experts" told us its a thing and we should "trust the experts".
You know, when you've been researching the truth dealing with bullshit for years, you start to see patterns and develop a keen sense for it.
https://media.tghn.org/medialibrary/2020/11/C4591001_Clinical_Protocol_Nov2020_Pfizer_BioNTech.pdf as the mother of an 18 week baby girl in utero.. I have to say this terrifies me. I have an 88 year old grandmother who got the Pfizer vakz and two other friends I saw the day of their second vakz and another friend who got hers in February. If this is really an issue, I don't know what i'll do.
Well, do what you think is best for yourself. I have a lot of friends scared to death of a virus that 99% survive. They're so scared that they have barely left their homes in a year. They wear three masks now. They won't shake hands or hug friends and family anymore. The "experts" told them they'd get people killed if they did not wear a mask at all times.
The problem is that when someone has given into their fears there is no amount of evidence you can give that will ever make sense to them. They will always go, "But what if it's TRUE?!!"
What are we fighting for if we end up becoming just like them? Afraid to hug and touch one another because someone claimed "experts" are warning about "shedding". Again more of that "Trust the experts". Don't we end up just like the very Karens we made fun of?
The only "experts" they'll listen to are the ones that confirm their worst fears. Just make sure that whatever you decide is not based on fear.
I just mean to protect my baby. I think transmission of something from vackzers is a legitimate concern. This baby is a double Christmas star gift and I won't let big pharma kill her.
Thanks for the positive vibes.
mRNA is not a vax! Not a vax! Not a vax!
It is building a new protein strand in your body the same hook for ACE2 receptors that COVID does.
How the FUCK DO PEOPLE NOT UNDERSTAND THIS?
It's not a vax. But you're also taking their word for it about what it actually is. I don't think we really know what these shots contain- especially since the ingredient lists are blank...
I am taking their word that is it deadly or at least not wholesome: https://media.tghn.org/medialibrary/2020/11/C4591001_Clinical_Protocol_Nov2020_Pfizer_BioNTech.pdf
Page 67 is a good spot, this was on the board in another big thread.
That's fine. At least you're willing to discuss it. The problem I've been seeing on this shedding stuff is how little discussion there is. We make fun of how the sheep wear masks because they "believe the experts", but then there are many here who back down fast because someone posts a link and says "BAM! This is a famous expert talking about it!" And everyone just kind of quiets down and accepts it as gospel truth. It's not different than the normies we mock.
For one thing, you can't take this scenario and apply it to this one. Covid-19 has never been isolated. How can anyone even diagnose it when there is no actual isolated strain of it to study? We don't even know what is in these vaccines (probably nothing good). So many questions. Yet a person posts an article to someone discussing viral shedding and if it's real in chickens and people shut their mouths and go "Oh well, that sounds like it legit applies here. I better just accept this as stone-cold fact".
Why can't people here see that's no different from normies believing the masks will save them because the so-called experts said so. So many are scared to discuss what they don't understand.
There is always logic and common sense. Does this theory really make sense? Can we really treat it as fact as on this site as so many are doing? I see it the "shedding" stuff getting used more to doom and fear-monger than to provoke discussion. And that makes me really suspicious of it.
I think it’s more a case of weird things happening like women’s periods that have not gotten the shot. The experts cited on here are just trying to give possible explanations for it. The videos of experts warning about the shot haven’t said much definitive except they don’t trust it and they think it should be halted.
Been there, done that, got the t-shirt. I was called every name in the book just for questioning the concept.
I've felt the same way, although until last night I wasn't aware of the Pfizer trial PDF instructing trial participants to notify Pfizer if they come into contact with pregnant women via inhalation or physical contact. They even instruct to contact Pfizer if a trial participant comes into contact with a male partner of a pregnant woman. Furthermore, there are now numerous reports of unvaccinated women having menstrual problems after coming into contact with vaccinated people.
So there definitely might be more to it, especially considering Pfizer had reason to believe there could be some contagion effect. Fucking crazy.
What is there not to buy about the transmission of spike proteins?
Terminology matters. Viral shedding would be when given a live attenuated virus vaccine and the the person sheds virus.
The transmissions from mnra vaccines are different. The mnra vaccine teaches a body to produce spike proteins. The immune system hates these protiens and attacks them. -when does the body stop producing them? -how many are produced? -once produced, how does the body get rid of them?
rather than the 'vaccine' (it isn't) shedding, it is the spike protein in manufactures in ones body that is shed (urine, sweat, feces, breath, spittle)
I am with you, I really think it is further divisive tactics.
I agree that the shedding theory may be DS propaganda to discredit real concerns, but I think the prion thing is likely the same.
Neither of these fears has any basis in biology that I am aware of, and none has been put forth. In the case of shedding, the body doesn't "shed" mRNA. Nor does it "shed" transmembrane proteins. The lipid nanoparticles have a relatively short half-life and are unlikely to be escaping the body, at least in any numbers to cause harm.
The biggest problem with all these theories is that mRNA does not write to DNA. While this is not a universally true statement, it is true enough that such concerns are completely unwarranted. mRNA is blocked from reentry into the nucleus, and non-discriminant reverse transcriptases are not expressed under normal cell function. Even if it DID happen, it would be such a rare event as to be a laughable cause of any expression of disease. People don't seem to realize our cells are COMPLETELY FULL OF mRNA AT ALL TIMES. If mRNA was being written to DNA on a regular basis under normal cell function our DNA would be complete havoc, and life as we know it would have never existed in the first place.
The prion disease theory requires several things:
Both of these conjectures have no biological basis. That doesn't mean that biology can't be surprising. Biology is surprising more often than not. But without actual evidence of a problem, indulging in these fantasies to the point of being afraid of them is discrediting the legitimate concerns. These ideas might be put forth in earnest, or they could be put forth as a means to discredit all legitimacy. Either way indulging in fantasies without evidence has the same effect.
I think of the Prion thing as a theory to consider. I'm fine just to talk about it. Some say its bunk. Some say it has teeth. And that's fine.
I was also ok with discussing shedding as a theory.
What I found dangerous about the "shedding" stuff is how many commenters and posts started to discussing it as though it was a proven fact. Suddenly we had all these accounts that hadn't posted in two months coming here and telling us all to avoid vaccinated loved because they might "shed" on us. When asked for proof, they gave links to "experts" and were like "trust the experts". Same as normies have been told about masks.
People were scared to call it out because you'd get downvoted or a bunch of "here is the link" and a lot of people even here are not confident to discuss anything with science. They don't know the topic well enough to feel they can discuss it. All it takes is a "link" and they'll usually back off because the link goes to an article that talks in jargon and sounds "legit".
Yes, I know what you are talking about mRNA. DNA is where the code is kept and protected. It's the master copy. mRNA is dispatched to the ribosomes to be made into amino acid chains and at some point (the most poorly understood part) is when the amino acids are folded into proteins. mRNA is the copies and contains the U pair base that distinguishes it from DNA where T is used instead.
You could theoretically add something to code for the prion (abnormally folded) but I am skeptical. It is a theory I think worth discussing. That's it. Not reacting to or cutting out friends and family. Even if the vaccines do contain "prions" the chances of them taking are next to nil. And the chance you could catch them from anyone are impossible.
However, what is dangerous is people running around and spreading panic on these theories because of some social media posts (which are a piece of cake for the DS to fake) and then telling us to avoid normies.
That is a drastic decision. It also seems like something the DS would want: us staying away from the brainwashed. Yes, they wouldn't want us near the sheep. We might wake some up.
I am now very suspicious of the agenda behind this Shedding Panic Porn.
I think vaccinated need to be wearing a mask.
Pfizer itself counted exposure during pregnancy events as inhalation near or skin contact with a vaccinated person.
Whatever protein they put in there appears it can be shed
Still gonna call them Shedders.
What about Mareks disease... you dont think the deep state would use something they know works fantastic to kill off the unvaxxed, on overpopulated humans?
Everything is propaganda. Even Q. It all depends on what and who you believe in that makes the difference in Humanity.