I agree, I actually like Gaetz, but he always came off as kind of frat guy weirdo for sure. Both times I met him were at local trade events for my work and he was speaking there. The first time, he had a crew of very slick looking rich dudes with him that all looked like they were out on the town partying. The second time he was with Greenberg.
So, a lib newspaper article is stating that a lib website is alleging that a guy I've never heard of is alleging in an alleged letter that Gaetz had sex with a minor along with this guy and this guy wanted Stone to ask Trump for a pardon for a crime that he hasn't been arrested for or convicted of ? hmmm.
I mean, I don't disagree, but some of those aren't true. Greenberg is well known here in Florida. The Orlando Sentinel isn't a lib paper, they're pretty center. And, Greenberg had already been arrested when he wrote the letter, he was awaiting trial.
That's an opinion piece. Even Hillary writes opinion pieces in the Wall Street Journel. Get a grip.
And yes, Greenberg was arrested at that point and seeking out a pardon. He was arrested for multiple things, he was the tax collector in my area. Look him up, he's pretty well known.
Read it. The newspaper endorsed peepads. It's an endorsement by the paper. And my point was he wasn't arrested for what they are alleging he was asking for a pardon for. You don't tend to ask for a pardon for 'if I ever get caught for this'. Your first post made it sound like you thought this was fake news. I guess you were being fake about that.
Right? WTF? I have a 17 year old daughter, if some dude showed up in a suit to pick her up, I don't care if he's 30 or 40. That dude gets a conversation with me that he won't enjoy.
If your daughter turned 18 and that happened, you would still be pissed though, right? So it’s not really about the age but about the age difference.
Nobody is saying it is the greatest but people think pedophiles should be rounded up and executed. I even think non-offending pedophiles should be executed by the state. Like if there was a way to scientifically identify a pedophile gene, I think we could probably treat pedophiles the way rabid dogs are treated. If a dog get rabies but hasn’t yet bitten anyone, we don’t say, “Oh, give the rabid dog a chance to do the right thing! Who knows, it might be able to control itself!” Nah, the dog is rabid so the dog gets put down.
Then you have a multimillionaire Hollywood celebrity like Jerry Seinfeld who starts dating a 17-year-old, they get married, and they are still together. Now it’s entirely possible Seinfeld is part of the cabal and rapes children, but assume for now it was just this one 17-year-old who he met, courted, and has now been married to for - what? - 20 years now? 30 years? Even with all the righteous anger you feel, could you really walk into Jerry Seinfeld’s mansion right now, force him to his knees, put a gun to his head, and blow his brains out in front of his wife of 30 years because he started dating her at 17? Like would you honestly feel like a good, moral person as you did that? Because I would not be able to do that.
That’s for the courts to figure out! A 38 year paying to have sex with a 17 year old minor is a pedophile in my eyes. Keep him locked up and away from minors for how long the courts decide!!
I just keep remembering James O'Keefe, when they showed the piece with CNN bragging that they were going after Matt G. Because democrats consider him a threat.
You advocating for young girls to have sex with older men is disgusting. If you think that having sex with a 16 or 17 year old is the same as a 30 year old, there is something wrong with you. I don't care what liberal law is in place.
I didn't say that at all, I'm guessing you don't have a daughter if you're just peechy keep with an adult man having sex with a 17 year old, who is still a kid 100%.
Just because YOU'RE okay with sleeping with underaged women, doesn't mean we have to accept that disgusting habit.
Most of us are here to see the end of that kind of stuff, not people looking for loopholes so they can fuck kids - no matter if they're 17 or 10.
Excuse me? I've been trained to react strongly when a guy says it's ok to fuck a 17 year old girl? This isn't about law, this is about right and wrong.
I beg of you please to find Jesus and seek out the truth. This is a horrible path you are on and I will pray for you.
I don't disagree. But in that same article Greenberg says he knew their age very well.
I still think it's a honeypot, but yeah, if it is true, guy shouldn't be fucking a kid.
I agree, I actually like Gaetz, but he always came off as kind of frat guy weirdo for sure. Both times I met him were at local trade events for my work and he was speaking there. The first time, he had a crew of very slick looking rich dudes with him that all looked like they were out on the town partying. The second time he was with Greenberg.
Yeah, we can’t just jump to conclusions and decide on an outcome until we have all the facts. That’s critical-thinking 101.
So, a lib newspaper article is stating that a lib website is alleging that a guy I've never heard of is alleging in an alleged letter that Gaetz had sex with a minor along with this guy and this guy wanted Stone to ask Trump for a pardon for a crime that he hasn't been arrested for or convicted of ? hmmm.
I mean, I don't disagree, but some of those aren't true. Greenberg is well known here in Florida. The Orlando Sentinel isn't a lib paper, they're pretty center. And, Greenberg had already been arrested when he wrote the letter, he was awaiting trial.
He was arrested for this? and here is your not lib paper: https://www.orlandosentinel.com/opinion/endorsements/os-op-sentinel-endorsement-joe-biden-for-president-20200828-tntaxemoyrabtcy4khjugnuqwu-story.html "Endorsement: Joe Biden for president, because he can get us out of Trump’s mess"
That's an opinion piece. Even Hillary writes opinion pieces in the Wall Street Journel. Get a grip.
And yes, Greenberg was arrested at that point and seeking out a pardon. He was arrested for multiple things, he was the tax collector in my area. Look him up, he's pretty well known.
Read it. The newspaper endorsed peepads. It's an endorsement by the paper. And my point was he wasn't arrested for what they are alleging he was asking for a pardon for. You don't tend to ask for a pardon for 'if I ever get caught for this'. Your first post made it sound like you thought this was fake news. I guess you were being fake about that.
Roger stone made a statement today that that’s all lies. Correct the record
Drain the swamp!!
Sounds like endgame-now is a pedophile!!
Right? WTF? I have a 17 year old daughter, if some dude showed up in a suit to pick her up, I don't care if he's 30 or 40. That dude gets a conversation with me that he won't enjoy.
If your daughter turned 18 and that happened, you would still be pissed though, right? So it’s not really about the age but about the age difference.
Nobody is saying it is the greatest but people think pedophiles should be rounded up and executed. I even think non-offending pedophiles should be executed by the state. Like if there was a way to scientifically identify a pedophile gene, I think we could probably treat pedophiles the way rabid dogs are treated. If a dog get rabies but hasn’t yet bitten anyone, we don’t say, “Oh, give the rabid dog a chance to do the right thing! Who knows, it might be able to control itself!” Nah, the dog is rabid so the dog gets put down.
Then you have a multimillionaire Hollywood celebrity like Jerry Seinfeld who starts dating a 17-year-old, they get married, and they are still together. Now it’s entirely possible Seinfeld is part of the cabal and rapes children, but assume for now it was just this one 17-year-old who he met, courted, and has now been married to for - what? - 20 years now? 30 years? Even with all the righteous anger you feel, could you really walk into Jerry Seinfeld’s mansion right now, force him to his knees, put a gun to his head, and blow his brains out in front of his wife of 30 years because he started dating her at 17? Like would you honestly feel like a good, moral person as you did that? Because I would not be able to do that.
I agree! I really hope endgame now doesn’t have daughters!!
Most of us are here to stop grown men from fucking children, not advocate for people to find loopholes so they can fuck slightly older children. WTF
It’s disgusting!!!! Gaetz is 38 years old I can’t believe people think it’s okay for a 38 year old to pay to have sex with a 17 year old minor!!
Having sex with a minor and paying to have sex with that minor is breaking the law?
That’s for the courts to figure out! A 38 year paying to have sex with a 17 year old minor is a pedophile in my eyes. Keep him locked up and away from minors for how long the courts decide!!
I just keep remembering James O'Keefe, when they showed the piece with CNN bragging that they were going after Matt G. Because democrats consider him a threat.
This story aside, if a 40 year old man was fucking my 17 year old daughter, I would not just say, Well, this happened in the 50s, good deal.
I disagree, and I think it's fucked up that you are blowing off someone sleeping with a child because they're "technically" almost 18.
I'm guessing you don't have daughters or much jesus in your life.
https://www.bhwlawfirm.com/legal-age-consent-united-states-map/
That's disgusting, I'm guessing you don't have a daughter.
The law is disgusting?
You advocating for young girls to have sex with older men is disgusting. If you think that having sex with a 16 or 17 year old is the same as a 30 year old, there is something wrong with you. I don't care what liberal law is in place.
I didn't say that at all, I'm guessing you don't have a daughter if you're just peechy keep with an adult man having sex with a 17 year old, who is still a kid 100%.
Just because YOU'RE okay with sleeping with underaged women, doesn't mean we have to accept that disgusting habit.
Most of us are here to see the end of that kind of stuff, not people looking for loopholes so they can fuck kids - no matter if they're 17 or 10.
Disgusting!
Excuse me? I've been trained to react strongly when a guy says it's ok to fuck a 17 year old girl? This isn't about law, this is about right and wrong.
I beg of you please to find Jesus and seek out the truth. This is a horrible path you are on and I will pray for you.