You'll be laughed at and chided. Perhaps threatened with "I'll report you for not kneeling at the altar", but you're right.
The Plan only works if there is a plan in place that hasn't been subject to issues, failures, unforeseen circumstance.
If a Nigerian Prince was sending emails to someone and said "If you just send me $500 I can get your millions to you" and someone sends that $500, but then the Nigerian Prince says "actually, for the plan to work, we need $5000 this time and I also need to sign away your rights to x, y and z, but trust me guy, I'm going to make it right and you'll get your money SOME time in the future (check dated payable 500 years into the future)", people would balk.
You're allowed to question and lack faith and do so without being called a shill or told to fuck off. It's common sense.
This isn't a matter of not having faith either, but being realistic. If the audits don't demonstrate fraud - then the plan is not what it was stated it was. You can argue it has changed or you can argue "but more need to wake up, not enough are awake", but they are excuses.
It's next to impossible to wrestle control back off people when they have 100% control. It's not a game. This isn't WW2 where someone comes in to fight on someone else's behalf.
These are realistic facts. The audit needs to demonstrate some ability to halt the corruption, otherwise everything else is moot. There's no more voting. We have no leverage or power. There is no "but..." beyond this.
We need it to be shown that there was fraud. Period. That's not date fagging or even relying on Q. It's the reality of the situation.
Anyone who thinks that the audits aren't important or aren't needed to demonstrate fraud are not thinking factually.
This doesn't capture the essence of the problem. You speak as if we all question the Plan. We don't. The Plan is real. Q is not a LARP. The point we question is the risk/reward ratio of precisely when the trap is sprung. At any point in time, there is a risk that not enough people will be awoken, and some evil cretins might slip through the net.
The question becomes what is a tolerable efficiency for this. The Plan as envisioned by Q may include absolutely minimizing this number. What those of us here question is how realistic is this goal, and what is the threshold that is worth the continuous suffering being inflicted on the world? Since we don't have the information that Q does, we are incapable of making an informed decision on this point. All we can do is express frustration loudly enough so that Q hopefully recognizes the real cost to dragging this out, and has an accurate view of the point beyond which we will break.
I don't want a kinetic war any more than anyone else, but at some point it is going to happen if the Plan doesn't visibly start going on the offensive. Morale is beyond bad at this point.
But we are agreed that these audits MUST demonstrate the fraud. We know that it occurred, and if we don't win here, the scales will tip towards violence out of sheer frustration and lack of visible leadership.
Very good comment, very insightful. Yes, Q might have a vision but the consequences for people is very real..If the audit fails.. Well prepare for conflict.Freedom isn't free at all. Q and the patriots cannot expect good men sit back and just look on while their country is torn to pieces by foreigners and communist. They are playing a VERY VERY dangerous game.
Yes we must see this for what it is if the audit fails. I can be wrong, but i think a lot of people will say that everything happening no matter what is according to the plan, when in reality its a excuse and wishful thinking due to the fact many are afraid to lose their comfort and fight. Nothing to be ashamed of , must of us have been growing up in a time of peace and celebrated weakness. But in my mind its better to die on the battlefield for what you believe in then become a communist slave. And if we can play it VC-style warfare we might have a shot. Remember, 80+ millions with guns and a huge part of the military + patriots around the globe loyal to America. Don't count us out yet.
We have to be prepared to fight. For one reason or another. Logically, the commander may have been held captive, something may have gone wrong with the "plan" etc. We have to be prepared for those situations.
Frankly, what disturbs me is that, on this forum, a lot of people think everything is a game or a movie, thus not real. That and that don't seem to get the logistics of a plan and believe in Q as if they're a mythical figure who has infinite power to make everything right without anything having gone wrong.
Pushing it out to infinity and brushing off serious issues isn't good risk mitigation or planning. Those people would die in actual battle and they're a danger to us all, because they don't follow linear logic.
We have to arm ourselves with knowledge, not blindness.
You'll be laughed at and chided. Perhaps threatened with "I'll report you for not kneeling at the altar", but you're right.
The Plan only works if there is a plan in place that hasn't been subject to issues, failures, unforeseen circumstance. If a Nigerian Prince was sending emails to someone and said "If you just send me $500 I can get your millions to you" and someone sends that $500, but then the Nigerian Prince says "actually, for the plan to work, we need $5000 this time and I also need to sign away your rights to x, y and z, but trust me guy, I'm going to make it right and you'll get your money SOME time in the future (check dated payable 500 years into the future)", people would balk.
You're allowed to question and lack faith and do so without being called a shill or told to fuck off. It's common sense.
This isn't a matter of not having faith either, but being realistic. If the audits don't demonstrate fraud - then the plan is not what it was stated it was. You can argue it has changed or you can argue "but more need to wake up, not enough are awake", but they are excuses.
It's next to impossible to wrestle control back off people when they have 100% control. It's not a game. This isn't WW2 where someone comes in to fight on someone else's behalf.
These are realistic facts. The audit needs to demonstrate some ability to halt the corruption, otherwise everything else is moot. There's no more voting. We have no leverage or power. There is no "but..." beyond this.
We need it to be shown that there was fraud. Period. That's not date fagging or even relying on Q. It's the reality of the situation. Anyone who thinks that the audits aren't important or aren't needed to demonstrate fraud are not thinking factually.
This doesn't capture the essence of the problem. You speak as if we all question the Plan. We don't. The Plan is real. Q is not a LARP. The point we question is the risk/reward ratio of precisely when the trap is sprung. At any point in time, there is a risk that not enough people will be awoken, and some evil cretins might slip through the net.
The question becomes what is a tolerable efficiency for this. The Plan as envisioned by Q may include absolutely minimizing this number. What those of us here question is how realistic is this goal, and what is the threshold that is worth the continuous suffering being inflicted on the world? Since we don't have the information that Q does, we are incapable of making an informed decision on this point. All we can do is express frustration loudly enough so that Q hopefully recognizes the real cost to dragging this out, and has an accurate view of the point beyond which we will break.
I don't want a kinetic war any more than anyone else, but at some point it is going to happen if the Plan doesn't visibly start going on the offensive. Morale is beyond bad at this point.
But we are agreed that these audits MUST demonstrate the fraud. We know that it occurred, and if we don't win here, the scales will tip towards violence out of sheer frustration and lack of visible leadership.
Very good comment, very insightful. Yes, Q might have a vision but the consequences for people is very real..If the audit fails.. Well prepare for conflict.Freedom isn't free at all. Q and the patriots cannot expect good men sit back and just look on while their country is torn to pieces by foreigners and communist. They are playing a VERY VERY dangerous game.
Yes we must see this for what it is if the audit fails. I can be wrong, but i think a lot of people will say that everything happening no matter what is according to the plan, when in reality its a excuse and wishful thinking due to the fact many are afraid to lose their comfort and fight. Nothing to be ashamed of , must of us have been growing up in a time of peace and celebrated weakness. But in my mind its better to die on the battlefield for what you believe in then become a communist slave. And if we can play it VC-style warfare we might have a shot. Remember, 80+ millions with guns and a huge part of the military + patriots around the globe loyal to America. Don't count us out yet.
Exactly that.
We have to be prepared to fight. For one reason or another. Logically, the commander may have been held captive, something may have gone wrong with the "plan" etc. We have to be prepared for those situations.
Frankly, what disturbs me is that, on this forum, a lot of people think everything is a game or a movie, thus not real. That and that don't seem to get the logistics of a plan and believe in Q as if they're a mythical figure who has infinite power to make everything right without anything having gone wrong.
Pushing it out to infinity and brushing off serious issues isn't good risk mitigation or planning. Those people would die in actual battle and they're a danger to us all, because they don't follow linear logic.
We have to arm ourselves with knowledge, not blindness.