I’m not religious but I’m a massive Trump and Q follower. I see lots Christians on the board, any other atheists around here?
How do you view the religious factor in the Q movement?
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That's not true... Atheists don't believe there is a god.
As an atheist, I get really tired of the mislabeling and the misunderstanding of the position. It's essentially a lack of belief. It's not the statement that there is no god, it's a belief that there isn't.
This is the "New" Atheism's definition. After Anthony Flew (the last of the true intellectual atheists), they had to redefine their position because defending a negative is too hard to do.
How could anyone state anything absolute about things that are unprovable? This is why it's a belief. We're talking about things we can't measure, observe and repeat. It's all within the realm of speculation.
Depends by what one means by "absolute" and "unprovable." There are many things that are unprovable in the mathematical sense (or even in the scientific sense) that you still believe to be true. For example, that Love exists. Or Beauty. Or Justice. Or Truth.
It's more of a preponderance of the evidence. The evidence, when taken collectively, points to a supreme Being that is extremely powerful, extremely intelligent, non-physical, and eternal. Getting awfully close to the Judeo-Christian description of who God is.
That may be your interpretation of things, but it's not mine.
You have to understand that I can, just like you, only sign off on things that make sense to me. Belief is then a product of many things other than desire or will to believe. Complicating things further, the god of the bible seems to judge people based on their beliefs... When clearly, beliefs are not ours entirely... There's many reasons people believe what they do and desire to believe what they do isn't even a thought. Peolple believe many things simply because their parents did, or because of social pressures for that time and era... We're products and we're more or less in the passenger seat while simultaneously thinking we're in the driver seat. And yet, the bible god wants to judge people based on their beliefs about him... which they may have had very little to even do with.
Rape, murder, torture, genocide, theft, lies etc... All forgivable... But gasp not believe in him? His ego just can't handle that. You get the eternal smoking section. It simply just too unforgivable...
Religion is too much an emotional issue... I see it here already... People popping off on me simply because I see things differently than they do. It's divisive as fuck and I just want everyone to get along despite what we think/believe about where we came from or where we go from here...
It's asking too much.
That's incorrect. Atheism is the belief there is no God. Not the position that there isn't.
I don't believe there is a god. <----Atheism
That's different than...
There is no god.
a·the·ism /ˈāTHēˌizəm/
disbelief or lack of belief in the existence of God or gods.
This is a classic attempt to redefine the historical meaning of Atheisms to hold the more tenable (soft?) position of "Lack" of Belief.
A = Greek for "No" Theism = Greek for "God"
This is known as the "New" Atheism. A redefined version of historical Atheism
Whatever it is is what I am. I don't believe in God but don't make the statement there isn't one. I'm not convinced by ancient texts written by dudes that didn't know where the sun went at night.
The universe is vast and beyond anything we can imagine. It could have a god out there somewhere but it could also have space breathing sharks with lasers mounted on their heads.
But when it comes to the bible, it's not even an original story.... Jesus wasn't the first virgin birth nor was he the first one crucified and rose from the dead. To me, it's not convincing and that god isn't worthy of my endorsement.