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Sidney Powell : When you hear that EEOC guidance says “your employer can require you to get a vaccine,” this is NOT TRUE (t.me) ⚠️ Unverified Telegram ⚠️
posted 3 years ago by ObamaSucks 3 years ago by ObamaSucks +375 / -0
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– Fauxvid_Chineteen 31 points 3 years ago +31 / -0

The president of my company asked me (I’m the dir of comms) to send out a company-wide email this last week, telling staff that if you’re not vaxxed, you still have to wear masks, and if you are, you don’t have to. Thanks to this site ?, I was able to produce a very compelling argument to him why we cannot ask that of our employees. According to the rules about EUA “products”—they cannot be mandated in any way, and furthermore, any “consequences” from refusing the product can also not be mandated (Ie: requiring masking if you don’t get the jab). He changed his tune after learning this. I was shocked that he didn’t already know, but happy that I did and was able to edumacate him on the topic!! Thank you to all of you who edumacated ME on the topic!! ??????☺️

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– ObamaSucks [S] 8 points 3 years ago +8 / -0

AWESOME JOB ANON ! ? Hat tip to you ! Well done ! Knowledge is KING !

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– Fauxvid_Chineteen 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

Thank you, op!! ???? Every little win helps!!!

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– ObamaSucks [S] 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

Aye. It sure does, and you have an exemplary win. Hopefully your win helps others to do the same !

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– Trump4NH 7 points 3 years ago +7 / -0

Can you link to the references you used to support your claims to your boss?

My employer is going the route of get injected by August or get out.

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– Fauxvid_Chineteen 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

I will go back and grab the links I used, fren! In the meantime—here is a portion of what I wrote, based on the info in those links:

“We’ve all worked incredibly hard this past year to build positivity and appreciation into our work-culture, and I think we’ve made some pretty awesome progress . I fear that this policy will immediately create dissension, divisiveness, ostracization, and contempt between two groups of our work family. Especially after reading several of the responses of the 'why's' that belong to our people who are opting out of the COVID vaccine, from the survey I recently sent out. That is to say—they aren’t wishy-washy responses. And neither are the "why's" of the group that opted in favor of the shot.
Which just means that there's already a major wall (even if currently invisible) between the two groups of people—if we call attention to it, that wall is going to grow larger and larger, and taller and taller, until we’re back to working in our old 'silos'. The only difference is that this time they won’t be service line silos—they’ll be silos containing those who’ve gotten the vaccine, and those who haven’t.

By mandating masking of one group, we are also putting a personal and private medical decision on full-display to the entire company, without each individual's consent. Essentially, we're singling out those who haven’t been vaccinated, which exposes their medical information to other employees.

This may even also work against us among the vaccinated group—many of whom may still feel more comfortable masking in the office. Now they may feel like they will be seen as 'non-vaccinated' by their peers, which, is a whole different issue that causes confusion and division.

Aside from the divisive issue, I also worry about the legality of this policy. I am absolutely not a legal expert, but I did some research today, and learned the following:

When we are talking about medical treatments that are authorized under EUA, and not fully FDA-approved, things get hairy (as you would imagine). AS per EUA rules, there must not be any mandates attached to the acceptance OR refusal of the EUA product or treatment. This rule would apply to both the shot AND masking (which I wasn't aware of, that masks were only approved for current use under EUA) .

As far as the vaccine—

“If a vaccine has been issued EUA by the FDA, it is not fully licensed and must be voluntary. A private party, such as an employer, school or hospital cannot circumvent the EUA law, which prohibits mandates.”

I understand we are not technically ‘mandating’ the shot, which is great, and I know people appreciate that.

However, the EUA rules go on to say that:

"According to Title 21, Section 360bbb-3 of the Federal Food, Drug, and Cosmetic Act (the “FD&C Act”) vests the Secretary of Health and Human Services with the permissive authority to grant Emergency Use Authorizations (“EUAs”) providing that appropriate conditions designed to ensure that individuals to whom the product is administered:

—are informed of the significant known and potential benefits and risks of such use, and of the extent to which such benefits and risks are unknown; and

—are informed of the option to accept or refuse administration of the product, or the consequences, if any, of refusing administration of the product, and of the alternatives to the product that are available and of their benefits and risks.

What this sounded like to me, is that an individual must not be forced to accept “consequences” (ie: masking) of refusing the EUA product (ie: the vaccine). Additionally, if we were to still go this route, we would really need to make certain that we are doing a thorough job of pointing out that there are untold risks associated with this shot, as there is no long-term safety data and the type of technology used in the shots has never-before been brought to market.

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– Trump4NH 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

Beautiful fren, this looks great and the links would be especially helpful as my employer is giving us until August to injected or get out (a university) and I’m not doing it so I am trying to craft my response carefully and correctly.

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– Fauxvid_Chineteen 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

Good for you!! But what a horrible situation to be put in...I just cannot believe that it's 'acceptable'. UGH.

OK, here is the resource where I pulled the specific wording about mandates not being able to be attached to anything under EUA: https://childrenshealthdefense.org/wp-content/uploads/chd-notice-for-eua-vaccines-6.4.21.pdf

Which originally came from this source: https://childrenshealthdefense.org/legal/legal-resources/

Which came from this source: https://childrenshealthdefense.org/defender/resources-federal-law-prohibits-mandates-emergency-use-covid-vaccines-tests-masks/

If I run across any others, I will come back to this post and update!! BEST OF LUCK to you, my friend!!!

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– numina18 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

Edjamacation is fab!!

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– LoobintheToobin 11 points 3 years ago +11 / -0

At the end of this video, very end, said really quickly they admit since the vaccine hasn’t actually been approved fully it can’t be mandated. (Though they lead you to believe otherwise up until that point) Video: mandatory https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=z8cYMT3ds4o&feature=youtu.be

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– Tooshort 6 points 3 years ago +6 / -0

So awesome reading the comments and the like/dislike ratio.

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– LoobintheToobin 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

Good thing to notice. It's encouraging when they let peak the truth. Probably why we so rarely are afforded the view.

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– antimasker 8 points 3 years ago +8 / -0

This applies to masks too, since mask use for viral transmission prevention was approved by the FDA for Emergency User Authorization, meaning you have the right to Informed Consent and you have the right to refuse the experimental treatment, 21 U.S. Code § 360bbb–3, section (e)(1)(A)(ii)(III)

https://www.fda.gov/medical-devices/emergency-situations-medical-devices/faqs-emergency-use-authorization-face-masks-non-surgical#:~:text=%20face%20masks%20are%20authorized%20under%20this%20eua%20to%20be%20worn%20for%20source%20control%20only%2C%20including%20in%20the%20healthcare%20setting.

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/21/360bbb-3

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– mrsray 7 points 3 years ago +7 / -0

thank you Sidney

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– GA2A 6 points 3 years ago +6 / -0

Hopefully there are repercussions for the employers that have been encouraging people to get the shot by threatening and bribing. Looking at you Cox.

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– deleted 6 points 3 years ago +6 / -0
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– OkieBowhunter 6 points 3 years ago +6 / -0

How can they mandate anything that has the potential to injure/kill you?

What recourse do we have if we are hurt by it? If there is no path for recourse, then why take it?

At some point, you need to stick up for you.

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– HellofAWoman99 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0

?? Thank you

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