Did you all watch the video or just read the quotes clipped out of it?
He openly admits he doesn't know. He's been dealing with severe medical issues of his own for 2 years on top of having a wife fighting cancer and struggling with his emerging Christian faith.
Give him a break that he hasn't been able to cut through the propaganda on this specific issue.
I didn't know jack shit about Q just 6 months ago. I began my journey as a disaffected libertarian who checked out of politics after Ron Paul got fucked in 2012, assuming the Deep State had already won and Hillary was going to be installed after Obama. I laughed when Trump won in 2016, but I didn't even vote that year because I was so black pilled already.
I still never paid attention to politics again until I got sent to work from home at the beginning of the scamdemic. I started watching the Task Force briefings daily and all of Trump's speeches. Then I began to realize that nothing the media said matched what was actually being said in the briefings. I began watching Tim Pool vids and quickly realized just how bad the media had gotten during my years of not paying attention to politics.
From Tim I found my way to Crowder. From Crowder I found my way to Bannon (thru Rudy and Don Jr.). From Bannon I found my way to TheDonald. And from the Donald I became a refugee here after Jan. 20th when the dooming kicked into overdrive there (as my intuition kept telling me the story wasn't over).
Since then I have rediscovered my faith in Christ (a journey assisted by Peterson's own psychological breakdowns of the book of Genesis, btw) and become a card-carrying Q-tard.
We need to stop being like the left. All of these guys are playing a role, and leading people TOWARD truth. Even Satan leads people to Christ, as he only exists in opposition TO God, meaning he can only exist if God does.
All roads lead to God winning, and resultantly NCSWIC. We can't start eating our own while we travel down the home stretch, and no matter what you may think of Jordan's opinion in this 4:36 clip out of his thousands of hours of content online, you at the very least can not claim to believe he is a BAD MAN, unless you are blind. You can't fake the genuine emotion he feels for people, and I would bet every dollar I have that our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ does not hold this man in contempt...
well said and a level headed approach to the topic. we cant become snowflakes and nobody is perfect but if theyre on our side we should give them our support and when theyre wrong call them out but dont cancel them outright thats how you end up alone
Right, Peterson is still a great and intelligent person who most of us can appreciate and the things he knows about he is top notch expert level with them, but he doesn’t know about everything, no one does and so when he speaks about things that are outside his area we should understand he is a bit ignorant there and that does discount his areas of success. He or anyone else shouldn’t be expected to have expertise in one area just because they have demonstrated it an another.
He is a good person to have on “our side” so the speak and trying the cancel him for not meeting some ideological purity test is what we often make fun of leftists for when we see them “eat their own”.
A lot of what you laid out here is how I feel about Trump. Give the man a break. He figured out how to become president of the USA and the most talked about person in the world. That alone deems respect.
I have a similar tale. What I didn't know is that JP is "struggling with his emerging Christian faith". Is this true, and can you direct me to some videos where this is apparent?
JP Biblical series was a major catalyst to my own awakening ?
Go on youtube and watch his most recent talks with Bishop Barron and especially Jonathan Pageau.
He is still very clearly somewhat stuck in the modernist worldview, and so the lack of material evidence for God still holds him back in his heart. He was raised in an era where God was "dead" (per modernist philosophy), and so his intuition was stunted right from the beginning of his life.
But he is putting the puzzle together backwards, he is understanding through the metaphorical lens that there is value in the narrative of God, and he is beginning to overlay that over the probabilistic idea that if there is a perfect mode of being in the world (aka to live in a Godly manner) that if you have billions or trillions of people over the course of history, eventually SOMEONE is going to do it right, just by pure chance if nothing else.
Now, he is just having to try to reconcile that with the idea that Jesus was historically REAL, that he IS the Messiah, and that prophetic vision is a gift from the divine being of God himself. And he's unfortunately (or maybe necessarily) grappling with this as he goes through the worst pain and suffering of his life.
But I recently was watching Jonathan Pageau talk to another person on Youtube (but I don't remember who it was) about a private conversation he had on the phone with Jordan, where Jordan exclaimed "Jon, what if these stories are REAL?!" LOL
I went through almost the same process as is being described here, but I had a bit of an easier time grasping that final piece, specifically BECAUSE I found my way into the Q community. Jordan is still outside of that. If he was able to pull the shroud from his eyes and see how the Q mythos fits perfectly within the fulfillment of Scriptural end times prophecy (and NO, I do not think and I am not advancing the idea that Trump himself represents the return of Christ - I have a far more nuanced view of the situation which would take me a dissertation to write out), then he would be able to see what I ended up seeing. And once I saw it, I began to have genuine religious experiences which reaffirmed to me that I had found the answer.
I went from being near suicidal a year ago to being perfectly at peace with the state of the world due to this transformation, but Jordan still lives on the other side of the propaganda wall. Until you figure out that the media literally creates a false reality for you, and that you can't trust ANYTHING they say, then you can't grasp the final piece...
So, Jordan has to make the final part of the trek without a guide. Or, I should say, he will learn about the false reality at the same time as other normies, and I am sure he will be able to accept it, unlike many who will not be able to stand as the world shifts out from under their feet.
I wish I could talk to him directly. I wish I could help him get where he needs to go. But I am just some guy on the internet. I don't have the ear of a man such as he...
I actually caught some of that episode with Jonathan Pageau and I noticed the same. What a beautiful and wondrous miracle to witness...the True Great Awakening.
Thank you! What a fantastic story you have! I also followed Jordan through part of my evolution. I'm quite fond of him. I pray that he becomes a full blown Christian.
Did you all watch the video or just read the quotes clipped out of it?
He openly admits he doesn't know. He's been dealing with severe medical issues of his own for 2 years on top of having a wife fighting cancer and struggling with his emerging Christian faith.
Give him a break that he hasn't been able to cut through the propaganda on this specific issue.
I didn't know jack shit about Q just 6 months ago. I began my journey as a disaffected libertarian who checked out of politics after Ron Paul got fucked in 2012, assuming the Deep State had already won and Hillary was going to be installed after Obama. I laughed when Trump won in 2016, but I didn't even vote that year because I was so black pilled already.
I still never paid attention to politics again until I got sent to work from home at the beginning of the scamdemic. I started watching the Task Force briefings daily and all of Trump's speeches. Then I began to realize that nothing the media said matched what was actually being said in the briefings. I began watching Tim Pool vids and quickly realized just how bad the media had gotten during my years of not paying attention to politics.
From Tim I found my way to Crowder. From Crowder I found my way to Bannon (thru Rudy and Don Jr.). From Bannon I found my way to TheDonald. And from the Donald I became a refugee here after Jan. 20th when the dooming kicked into overdrive there (as my intuition kept telling me the story wasn't over).
Since then I have rediscovered my faith in Christ (a journey assisted by Peterson's own psychological breakdowns of the book of Genesis, btw) and become a card-carrying Q-tard.
We need to stop being like the left. All of these guys are playing a role, and leading people TOWARD truth. Even Satan leads people to Christ, as he only exists in opposition TO God, meaning he can only exist if God does.
All roads lead to God winning, and resultantly NCSWIC. We can't start eating our own while we travel down the home stretch, and no matter what you may think of Jordan's opinion in this 4:36 clip out of his thousands of hours of content online, you at the very least can not claim to believe he is a BAD MAN, unless you are blind. You can't fake the genuine emotion he feels for people, and I would bet every dollar I have that our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ does not hold this man in contempt...
well said and a level headed approach to the topic. we cant become snowflakes and nobody is perfect but if theyre on our side we should give them our support and when theyre wrong call them out but dont cancel them outright thats how you end up alone
Right, Peterson is still a great and intelligent person who most of us can appreciate and the things he knows about he is top notch expert level with them, but he doesn’t know about everything, no one does and so when he speaks about things that are outside his area we should understand he is a bit ignorant there and that does discount his areas of success. He or anyone else shouldn’t be expected to have expertise in one area just because they have demonstrated it an another.
He is a good person to have on “our side” so the speak and trying the cancel him for not meeting some ideological purity test is what we often make fun of leftists for when we see them “eat their own”.
A lot of what you laid out here is how I feel about Trump. Give the man a break. He figured out how to become president of the USA and the most talked about person in the world. That alone deems respect.
I have a similar tale. What I didn't know is that JP is "struggling with his emerging Christian faith". Is this true, and can you direct me to some videos where this is apparent?
JP Biblical series was a major catalyst to my own awakening ?
Go on youtube and watch his most recent talks with Bishop Barron and especially Jonathan Pageau.
He is still very clearly somewhat stuck in the modernist worldview, and so the lack of material evidence for God still holds him back in his heart. He was raised in an era where God was "dead" (per modernist philosophy), and so his intuition was stunted right from the beginning of his life.
But he is putting the puzzle together backwards, he is understanding through the metaphorical lens that there is value in the narrative of God, and he is beginning to overlay that over the probabilistic idea that if there is a perfect mode of being in the world (aka to live in a Godly manner) that if you have billions or trillions of people over the course of history, eventually SOMEONE is going to do it right, just by pure chance if nothing else.
Now, he is just having to try to reconcile that with the idea that Jesus was historically REAL, that he IS the Messiah, and that prophetic vision is a gift from the divine being of God himself. And he's unfortunately (or maybe necessarily) grappling with this as he goes through the worst pain and suffering of his life.
But I recently was watching Jonathan Pageau talk to another person on Youtube (but I don't remember who it was) about a private conversation he had on the phone with Jordan, where Jordan exclaimed "Jon, what if these stories are REAL?!" LOL
I went through almost the same process as is being described here, but I had a bit of an easier time grasping that final piece, specifically BECAUSE I found my way into the Q community. Jordan is still outside of that. If he was able to pull the shroud from his eyes and see how the Q mythos fits perfectly within the fulfillment of Scriptural end times prophecy (and NO, I do not think and I am not advancing the idea that Trump himself represents the return of Christ - I have a far more nuanced view of the situation which would take me a dissertation to write out), then he would be able to see what I ended up seeing. And once I saw it, I began to have genuine religious experiences which reaffirmed to me that I had found the answer.
I went from being near suicidal a year ago to being perfectly at peace with the state of the world due to this transformation, but Jordan still lives on the other side of the propaganda wall. Until you figure out that the media literally creates a false reality for you, and that you can't trust ANYTHING they say, then you can't grasp the final piece...
So, Jordan has to make the final part of the trek without a guide. Or, I should say, he will learn about the false reality at the same time as other normies, and I am sure he will be able to accept it, unlike many who will not be able to stand as the world shifts out from under their feet.
I wish I could talk to him directly. I wish I could help him get where he needs to go. But I am just some guy on the internet. I don't have the ear of a man such as he...
Beautifully said.
I actually caught some of that episode with Jonathan Pageau and I noticed the same. What a beautiful and wondrous miracle to witness...the True Great Awakening.
Thank you! What a fantastic story you have! I also followed Jordan through part of my evolution. I'm quite fond of him. I pray that he becomes a full blown Christian.