I personally think a lot of this is being faked by the white hats. There's multiple reports of the same people crossing the border every day for months on end. I'm not saying there are NO illegals coming across at the moment (because that would be stupid to think), but I honestly think a lot of it is being faked to exacerbate the issue and make it look worse than it is.
Beyond that, we KNOW all of these "caravans" are fake with actors paid for by soros (Because it makes so much sense for people to be walking thousands of miles barefoot or in flip flops with new iphones while being clean as a whistle). So it's not like large scale border events are impossible to fake. We KNOW it happens. Probably the biggest thing actually happening at the moment is the cartels being emboldened with their actual human trafficking, and they're not hopping the fence. They're using less obvious methods.
Regardless, I'm convinced that whether or not everything going on at the border is legitimately happening, or "part of the movie" there has to be some kind of white hat plan to deal with the illegal problem, otherwise we'll just be right back where we are now in a couple decades.
the problem is exactly as big as we think it is.
people from all around the world, for all manor of motivations recognize we have a border policy that they can easily exploit.
the reason it is happening LOTS right now is
1: at this point we are basically paying poor people to come over in this illegal and dangerous way.
2: dems and rino's want to let it happen. every one of them is a potential Ballot
that can harvested and used to vote how they chose.
trump knew, thus the wall and his policy.
the plan is as easy as electing non criminals and enacting a normal border policy that stops non citizens from coming in and living here
First of all, thank you for being respectful. Second of all, I maintain there's more here than meets the eye. Assume we actually are getting millions of illegals a month coming in. Ok, we lock the border back down when Trump comes back and the cabal is defeated. What about the X Million illegals now dispersed throughout the country?
You'll never be able to track all of them down, so how do you get rid of them before they can force a massive demographic shift that will put us right back where we are. If, 20 years down the road, the majority of people that are descended from these illegals and became US citizens (anchor babies) grow up listening to their parents tell them free crap is good, there WILL be a political party that will be there to take advantage of that. Q said the democrat party will be dead when all of this is done, but there will be others that will step up if the voter base is there.
Hence why I say there HAS to be something else going on here, otherwise we'll just end up right back where we are now in the mildly close future. It might not be what I said, but there has to be something going on in the background.
i guess i do assume that yes, that 1.2m or whatever we are up to at this point this year people are not only coming in, but being bussed to strategic locations.
i dont think we need to get rid of them. you kind of mentioned, but as long as we fix our voting laws so illegal's cant get registered vote, and hold local politicians accountable for allowing illegals to be employed and get benefits. it will work itself out. at least enough to triage
i do think most of these people do just want to work and have a family and normal life and would pay into it given the chance.
it just wouldnt make sense to me to have a white hat op to fake people coming in so that we could sell a normal border policy and not absorb a few million people.
it just seems like it would be to risky to play some kind of 4d chess when mitigating it with normal policies, although not great, wouldn't be the end of the country. we could probably use those white hats in better ways.
i guess all of that is contingent on getting patriots back in charge hopefully soon
Now if it's only 1.2 million so far I can see it being somewhat "reasonable". The problem is that most people are saying that we're taking in anywhere from 500K to a million people a month at this point. If THAT is true, then that's out the window. I do agree that finding ways to prevent illegals from getting employed or drawing benefits would curtail the vast majority of illegal immigration, but that still leaves a lot of the anchor baby types who were raised in this culture of hand me outs.
I'd imagine you're probably right and some of them WOULD integrate, the Texas border counties are leading to the reasonable assumption that it appears people who are descended from illegals are becoming more conservative and patriotic in recent years, but that's a risk I'd personally rather not take given how we ended up in this situation in the first place.
As for the 4d chess thing, I probably would've agreed last year, but after allowing the potato to "take office" and allow all of the other morons in government to go along with their ridiculous bull crap, I don't push anything off the table for white hat operations.
Regardless, like I said, I'm sure there's some kind of plan for all of this. Q said we're watching a movie, so I assume that means they have a contingency plan for literally everything. Which means there's some kind of solution to this, whether it's something someone has mentioned on here, or it's something we're all missing because we don't have all the info. So I'm not going to worry about the long term effects. I'm honestly more concerned with the short term effects on human trafficking with the cartels. Even if these illegals are all real, it just means a bigger fight down the road.
But the human trafficking is sick and needs to be put down ASAP.
Look, you're allowed to have your opinion, and I'm allowed to have mine. The facts are, none of us really know what's going on. The fact you call me a shill without looking at any of my post history shows you're either ignorant and presumptuous, or a shill yourself.
Given you're post history, I'm inclined to believe it's the former. The fact you ignored the part of my post about there being illegal border crossing (just not to the extent portrayed) and how the largest problem in all of this is the increased cartel activity (Which accounts for the aforementioned killing and raping) just proves that point further.
Regardless, if nothing else I maintain that there HAS to be something else going on here behind the scenes, otherwise the entire plan is for naught when the country is take over by illegals and our demographics shift 20 years down the road leading us back to square one.
Given the fact that you don’t respond without reviewing post history and using it to assassinate character, I am inclined to think you definitely are a shill.
Wait, I think I misunderstood what you were implying. My bad, I see that you're accusing me of being a shill because I dared to look at your post history. Given the proliferation of actual shills on here, I find when someone attacks you, it's the best policy to look at their post history. Helps weed out all of the 2 week old glowie accounts looking to gain karma so they can actually make posts.
I personally think a lot of this is being faked by the white hats. There's multiple reports of the same people crossing the border every day for months on end. I'm not saying there are NO illegals coming across at the moment (because that would be stupid to think), but I honestly think a lot of it is being faked to exacerbate the issue and make it look worse than it is.
Beyond that, we KNOW all of these "caravans" are fake with actors paid for by soros (Because it makes so much sense for people to be walking thousands of miles barefoot or in flip flops with new iphones while being clean as a whistle). So it's not like large scale border events are impossible to fake. We KNOW it happens. Probably the biggest thing actually happening at the moment is the cartels being emboldened with their actual human trafficking, and they're not hopping the fence. They're using less obvious methods.
Regardless, I'm convinced that whether or not everything going on at the border is legitimately happening, or "part of the movie" there has to be some kind of white hat plan to deal with the illegal problem, otherwise we'll just be right back where we are now in a couple decades.
respectfully, that makes zero sense.
the problem is exactly as big as we think it is. people from all around the world, for all manor of motivations recognize we have a border policy that they can easily exploit.
the reason it is happening LOTS right now is
1: at this point we are basically paying poor people to come over in this illegal and dangerous way.
2: dems and rino's want to let it happen. every one of them is a potential Ballot that can harvested and used to vote how they chose.
trump knew, thus the wall and his policy.
the plan is as easy as electing non criminals and enacting a normal border policy that stops non citizens from coming in and living here
dont over complicate things
First of all, thank you for being respectful. Second of all, I maintain there's more here than meets the eye. Assume we actually are getting millions of illegals a month coming in. Ok, we lock the border back down when Trump comes back and the cabal is defeated. What about the X Million illegals now dispersed throughout the country?
You'll never be able to track all of them down, so how do you get rid of them before they can force a massive demographic shift that will put us right back where we are. If, 20 years down the road, the majority of people that are descended from these illegals and became US citizens (anchor babies) grow up listening to their parents tell them free crap is good, there WILL be a political party that will be there to take advantage of that. Q said the democrat party will be dead when all of this is done, but there will be others that will step up if the voter base is there.
Hence why I say there HAS to be something else going on here, otherwise we'll just end up right back where we are now in the mildly close future. It might not be what I said, but there has to be something going on in the background.
i guess i do assume that yes, that 1.2m or whatever we are up to at this point this year people are not only coming in, but being bussed to strategic locations.
i dont think we need to get rid of them. you kind of mentioned, but as long as we fix our voting laws so illegal's cant get registered vote, and hold local politicians accountable for allowing illegals to be employed and get benefits. it will work itself out. at least enough to triage
i do think most of these people do just want to work and have a family and normal life and would pay into it given the chance.
it just wouldnt make sense to me to have a white hat op to fake people coming in so that we could sell a normal border policy and not absorb a few million people.
it just seems like it would be to risky to play some kind of 4d chess when mitigating it with normal policies, although not great, wouldn't be the end of the country. we could probably use those white hats in better ways.
i guess all of that is contingent on getting patriots back in charge hopefully soon
Now if it's only 1.2 million so far I can see it being somewhat "reasonable". The problem is that most people are saying that we're taking in anywhere from 500K to a million people a month at this point. If THAT is true, then that's out the window. I do agree that finding ways to prevent illegals from getting employed or drawing benefits would curtail the vast majority of illegal immigration, but that still leaves a lot of the anchor baby types who were raised in this culture of hand me outs.
I'd imagine you're probably right and some of them WOULD integrate, the Texas border counties are leading to the reasonable assumption that it appears people who are descended from illegals are becoming more conservative and patriotic in recent years, but that's a risk I'd personally rather not take given how we ended up in this situation in the first place.
As for the 4d chess thing, I probably would've agreed last year, but after allowing the potato to "take office" and allow all of the other morons in government to go along with their ridiculous bull crap, I don't push anything off the table for white hat operations.
Regardless, like I said, I'm sure there's some kind of plan for all of this. Q said we're watching a movie, so I assume that means they have a contingency plan for literally everything. Which means there's some kind of solution to this, whether it's something someone has mentioned on here, or it's something we're all missing because we don't have all the info. So I'm not going to worry about the long term effects. I'm honestly more concerned with the short term effects on human trafficking with the cartels. Even if these illegals are all real, it just means a bigger fight down the road.
But the human trafficking is sick and needs to be put down ASAP.
That is the dumbest take I can possibly imagine.
WhItE hAtS aRe FaKiNg IlLeGaL bOrDeR cRoSsInGs
Don’t worry it’s not bad guys infiltrating your country to kill your men and rape your women and children
What a stupid shill
Look, you're allowed to have your opinion, and I'm allowed to have mine. The facts are, none of us really know what's going on. The fact you call me a shill without looking at any of my post history shows you're either ignorant and presumptuous, or a shill yourself.
Given you're post history, I'm inclined to believe it's the former. The fact you ignored the part of my post about there being illegal border crossing (just not to the extent portrayed) and how the largest problem in all of this is the increased cartel activity (Which accounts for the aforementioned killing and raping) just proves that point further.
Regardless, if nothing else I maintain that there HAS to be something else going on here behind the scenes, otherwise the entire plan is for naught when the country is take over by illegals and our demographics shift 20 years down the road leading us back to square one.
Given the fact that you don’t respond without reviewing post history and using it to assassinate character, I am inclined to think you definitely are a shill.
Wait, I think I misunderstood what you were implying. My bad, I see that you're accusing me of being a shill because I dared to look at your post history. Given the proliferation of actual shills on here, I find when someone attacks you, it's the best policy to look at their post history. Helps weed out all of the 2 week old glowie accounts looking to gain karma so they can actually make posts.
You're really not helping yourself when first sentence in the second paragraph of my response literally says "Given your post history".