from teafor 7 in comments-
I've worked in clinical research for years, & while I do not have as much experience as Karen, I have also seen many drugs go through the clinical trial & approval processes. I worked for years with the fda & know how this system works. This is completely abnormal & she is missing one KEY element. Yes, they have approved the Pfizer vaccine (brand name: Comirnaty). HOWEVER, they have not started to manufacture it and have just started to work on the label. That part is normal. When a drug is approved it takes some time to get it to market. However, it is confusing right now because the drug would not normally be available during this stage of approval. What the fda & Pfizer have done here is a total befuddling of the public by convoluting the process. Here are the letters of approval (she only had one - there are TWO):
Here is the 1st letter https://www.fda.gov/media/151710/download This shows that Comirnaty has been approved and they may start the labeling process
Here is the 2nd letter: https://www.fda.gov/media/150386/download This is the extension of the EUA for the Pfizer vax that is currently being administered (to the sheep)
Why did they do this? I can only conclude that they wanted to make people think that the vaccine that is available now has been approved so people will feel more comfortable getting it. Also this might let the businesses and gov't entities who want to mandate it feel vindicated to do so. While the two formulations are supposedly very similar (but who would trust them) the problem is that the public will feel safe taking it while the trial data, adverse events & ingredients have yet to be fully published.
Interesting, perhaps there are two vaccines in circulation? I looked at the "vaccine passport" of someone I know, and it says he received a Comirnaty vaccine.
Perhaps they are using one vaccine in the US, and the Comirnaty here in Europe? Maybe the FDA is granting approval of the Comirnaty, while the EMA is doing the same for the US version? Kinda covering for each other and confusing the hell out of each of us...
That is good info. Probably has to do with liability. As Karen KIngston said in the interview, there are certain things required for FDA approval but you then have to have a label and a list of ingredients (which is still not done in the US for the Commirnaty.
Found what the WHO has on it Says the manufacturer is Pfizer Europe.
https://www.who.int/publications/m/item/comirnaty-covid-19-mrna-vaccine
from teafor 7 in comments- I've worked in clinical research for years, & while I do not have as much experience as Karen, I have also seen many drugs go through the clinical trial & approval processes. I worked for years with the fda & know how this system works. This is completely abnormal & she is missing one KEY element. Yes, they have approved the Pfizer vaccine (brand name: Comirnaty). HOWEVER, they have not started to manufacture it and have just started to work on the label. That part is normal. When a drug is approved it takes some time to get it to market. However, it is confusing right now because the drug would not normally be available during this stage of approval. What the fda & Pfizer have done here is a total befuddling of the public by convoluting the process. Here are the letters of approval (she only had one - there are TWO): Here is the 1st letter https://www.fda.gov/media/151710/download This shows that Comirnaty has been approved and they may start the labeling process Here is the 2nd letter: https://www.fda.gov/media/150386/download This is the extension of the EUA for the Pfizer vax that is currently being administered (to the sheep) Why did they do this? I can only conclude that they wanted to make people think that the vaccine that is available now has been approved so people will feel more comfortable getting it. Also this might let the businesses and gov't entities who want to mandate it feel vindicated to do so. While the two formulations are supposedly very similar (but who would trust them) the problem is that the public will feel safe taking it while the trial data, adverse events & ingredients have yet to be fully published.
Word games then, sadly.
Isn't that how they always do it. Keeps us confused.
Interesting, perhaps there are two vaccines in circulation? I looked at the "vaccine passport" of someone I know, and it says he received a Comirnaty vaccine.
Perhaps they are using one vaccine in the US, and the Comirnaty here in Europe? Maybe the FDA is granting approval of the Comirnaty, while the EMA is doing the same for the US version? Kinda covering for each other and confusing the hell out of each of us...
That is good info. Probably has to do with liability. As Karen KIngston said in the interview, there are certain things required for FDA approval but you then have to have a label and a list of ingredients (which is still not done in the US for the Commirnaty. Found what the WHO has on it Says the manufacturer is Pfizer Europe. https://www.who.int/publications/m/item/comirnaty-covid-19-mrna-vaccine