Yeah I’ve got a buddy who’s fulll on “ready to go cut off Taliban heads” and full fucking credance... because “women and children are being slaughtered”
I’m like dude, the footage itself is super weird... secondly how do you even know anything is happening over there... his response “it’s all over the news” 😂😂😂
I point back to 1970s Afghanistan before we never stuck our hand in the pot... nobody wants to talk about that. There were no hijabs, no crazy extremist shit..
The men and leaders of the Taliban now, are the children that survived the bombings from Desert Storm... we’ve literally forced multi generations of hate into that territory. I’m Pro USA to my fucking core, but we haven’t always been that great and not sticking our hand in the cookie jar and making it rain steeel
Think about if China invaded us today and was successful. We would be the “Taliban” of the USA. Your sons would be the extremists Taliban fighting to rid the land of the unwanted Asians..
I was there in 1970, before the Soviets came, went by bus over the Khyber Pass where we could see an occasional grizzled Afghan in Rock colored clothes pop up with their amazing homemade rifles for a look, then sink down in the rocks again. I assure you that every Afghan women and little girl I saw in Kabul, Kandahar, and Herat was wearing a burqua, and men were ogling them hoping for a flash of ankle. Women and men did not mingle, women kept in groups for protection. Huge central market in Kabul, obviously the end point of all the Goodwill stores of the world. All booths run by men. They had music and a few tape stalls--I think it was the Taliban who took away all music. The local economy was driven by tourism, east and west and the Afghans obliged, politely but aloofly. Too bad if you had a problem, next embassy Tehran. At that time there was a regular bus service (not exactly Greyhound quality!) between Delhi to London, it was always busy and a pretty civilized way to get through. The Americans had built a nice ring road around the country which made this possible--maybe the CIA did it. Guess what, visitors from both west and east were after opium which was plentiful, cheap, and easy to get, along with their gunky hashish which was about $2 for a half pound. This was very dangerous for the people smuggling it back to Europe because if found in Iran or Turkey they would have been summarily shot. Anyway, this was your golden age in Afghanistan, cassette tapes and dead end opium addicts and all the sheep fat on rice you wanted.
Outstanding account! How far did you go by bus? Have you written more about these adventures?
Have you read any Peter Hopkirk's work? The Great Game? Or Kipling? Those men also had a great feel for the pulse of the region.
Those Afghan tribes fight for the fun of it. They've been at it for a thousand years. Can't really blame us for starting a war there. There's always been a war there. That said, yes I do believe the DS uses the situation to it's own ends.
All of our work over the past 20 years has been lost overnight. Only God understands how much pain we have and how broken our hearts are. Our hearts ache for our beautiful country. It has now been destroyed by this savage and extremist group. Every precious thing of value in our nation is now destroyed. The whole world has abandoned us. Those who said they support us have now abandoned us to the worst situation imaginable. I don't know what is going to happen to us."
Why are you sharing this? You have a Muslim nation, who has told people until they are blue in the face “hey fuckers, we only want Islam here, we don’t want Christianity, get the hell off our land because you are desiccating our land and making it unholy”
To them, Islam is the #1 faith... regardless of how we feel here in the US... I can DEFINITELY remember everyone feeling very offended when mosques were popping up all over the USA.
I’m not any religion. I have god, and my spirituality, I don’t need man telling me how to give my life to my creator. My creator tells me every path I need to walk down, he is my light.. I don’t need to be a Christian for that, I don’t need to be catholic, or Mormon, or Islam... however, these people do. And to them, it’s worth dying for.
You cannot fit a square peg into a round hole. Christians are UNWANTED to them. Why are Americans soooo fucking dead set on making sure Christianity thrives in a place where literally NOBODY WANTS IT. It’s a seriously inconvenient truth for so many of you. We’ve already have Christian/Islam intersection everywhere on this planet, these people want their home left alone and they are willing to fucking kill you for that..
Now maybe I’m just a little more rational than most, but when someone asks me to leave them alone that’s what I do... I don’t grab a stick and beat them with it for 30 years.
Just compare a typical place where Christianity dominates to a typical place where Islam dominates. I think you will soon understand people's thinking on the subject.
You don’t even understand how overbearing and controlling you just sounded in your comment.. saying that you don’t care what they worship, it’s your job to invade their home and force a new religion down their throat...
That’s freaking wild to me... I’m not Islamic, but if you came to me, to my face and spouted off some shit like that... it wouldn’t end well for you...
This is the problem with Christianity, you force your opinions down people’s throats to the point you’ll invade their home lands for it... to the point it’s extremely rude. You’re extremely rude... you are disrespectful towards other humans who are just trying to live their lives with their own religion.
These people will fucking kill you and I don’t blame them for doing so...
Yeah I’ve got a buddy who’s fulll on “ready to go cut off Taliban heads” and full fucking credance... because “women and children are being slaughtered”
I’m like dude, the footage itself is super weird... secondly how do you even know anything is happening over there... his response “it’s all over the news” 😂😂😂
It's a violent area and women and children suffer all over, not just Afghanistan. Blame the culture. Things were bad for them without the Taliban.
I point back to 1970s Afghanistan before we never stuck our hand in the pot... nobody wants to talk about that. There were no hijabs, no crazy extremist shit..
The men and leaders of the Taliban now, are the children that survived the bombings from Desert Storm... we’ve literally forced multi generations of hate into that territory. I’m Pro USA to my fucking core, but we haven’t always been that great and not sticking our hand in the cookie jar and making it rain steeel
Think about if China invaded us today and was successful. We would be the “Taliban” of the USA. Your sons would be the extremists Taliban fighting to rid the land of the unwanted Asians..
I was there in 1970, before the Soviets came, went by bus over the Khyber Pass where we could see an occasional grizzled Afghan in Rock colored clothes pop up with their amazing homemade rifles for a look, then sink down in the rocks again. I assure you that every Afghan women and little girl I saw in Kabul, Kandahar, and Herat was wearing a burqua, and men were ogling them hoping for a flash of ankle. Women and men did not mingle, women kept in groups for protection. Huge central market in Kabul, obviously the end point of all the Goodwill stores of the world. All booths run by men. They had music and a few tape stalls--I think it was the Taliban who took away all music. The local economy was driven by tourism, east and west and the Afghans obliged, politely but aloofly. Too bad if you had a problem, next embassy Tehran. At that time there was a regular bus service (not exactly Greyhound quality!) between Delhi to London, it was always busy and a pretty civilized way to get through. The Americans had built a nice ring road around the country which made this possible--maybe the CIA did it. Guess what, visitors from both west and east were after opium which was plentiful, cheap, and easy to get, along with their gunky hashish which was about $2 for a half pound. This was very dangerous for the people smuggling it back to Europe because if found in Iran or Turkey they would have been summarily shot. Anyway, this was your golden age in Afghanistan, cassette tapes and dead end opium addicts and all the sheep fat on rice you wanted.
Outstanding account! How far did you go by bus? Have you written more about these adventures?
Have you read any Peter Hopkirk's work? The Great Game? Or Kipling? Those men also had a great feel for the pulse of the region.
Those Afghan tribes fight for the fun of it. They've been at it for a thousand years. Can't really blame us for starting a war there. There's always been a war there. That said, yes I do believe the DS uses the situation to it's own ends.
Finally somebody else understands!
A Message From the Underground Church in Afghanistan
https://youtu.be/aBwEjAR0L-4?list=LLM80yoQ-4RnriQfXWbNqpIA&t=138
Why are you sharing this? You have a Muslim nation, who has told people until they are blue in the face “hey fuckers, we only want Islam here, we don’t want Christianity, get the hell off our land because you are desiccating our land and making it unholy”
To them, Islam is the #1 faith... regardless of how we feel here in the US... I can DEFINITELY remember everyone feeling very offended when mosques were popping up all over the USA.
I’m not any religion. I have god, and my spirituality, I don’t need man telling me how to give my life to my creator. My creator tells me every path I need to walk down, he is my light.. I don’t need to be a Christian for that, I don’t need to be catholic, or Mormon, or Islam... however, these people do. And to them, it’s worth dying for.
You cannot fit a square peg into a round hole. Christians are UNWANTED to them. Why are Americans soooo fucking dead set on making sure Christianity thrives in a place where literally NOBODY WANTS IT. It’s a seriously inconvenient truth for so many of you. We’ve already have Christian/Islam intersection everywhere on this planet, these people want their home left alone and they are willing to fucking kill you for that..
Now maybe I’m just a little more rational than most, but when someone asks me to leave them alone that’s what I do... I don’t grab a stick and beat them with it for 30 years.
These are muslims who converted. Afghanistan is their country, too. But you obviously don't care.
Just compare a typical place where Christianity dominates to a typical place where Islam dominates. I think you will soon understand people's thinking on the subject.
I just don’t understand why we need to interfere in other countries.
You don’t even understand how overbearing and controlling you just sounded in your comment.. saying that you don’t care what they worship, it’s your job to invade their home and force a new religion down their throat...
That’s freaking wild to me... I’m not Islamic, but if you came to me, to my face and spouted off some shit like that... it wouldn’t end well for you...
This is the problem with Christianity, you force your opinions down people’s throats to the point you’ll invade their home lands for it... to the point it’s extremely rude. You’re extremely rude... you are disrespectful towards other humans who are just trying to live their lives with their own religion.
These people will fucking kill you and I don’t blame them for doing so...
To YOU IT ISNT THE TRUTH... I stand firm on what I said. You believe Christianity is #1, they believe Islam is #1..
Go ahead and head over there and start spreading your truth. I’ll wait and see how long you last.. don’t worry, Jesus has your back.