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🤔Hey Doc .. think you misunderstood.. that was a Hippocratic oath you took.. not Hypocritic !!🤨🤨 (media.greatawakening.win)
posted 4 years ago by Oldpatriot 4 years ago by Oldpatriot +455 / -0
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– LoobintheToobin 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

How so?

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– MordenGeist 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

Favoritism? -Adam -Moses -Enoch -David -Lot -Noah -Israelites ....and sooo many more. If they were not favored by God, would they not have been warned from harm, danger, etc? "God's chosen" is equivalent to favoritism, by definition.

Just always seemed a strange verse with all the examples throughout.

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– LoobintheToobin 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

Generally when God warns, everyone to whom the warning applies gets warned, only the repentant listen and are saved. Occasionally the faithful to God are given an early heads up, this isn’t favoritism but a consequence of God’s loving provision and activation of a life principal. This often comes with the burden of warning everyone else. Truer than gravity, “The Lord is gracious and full of compassion, Slow to anger and great in mercy. The Lord is good to all, And His tender mercies are over all His works. The Lord is righteous in all His ways, Gracious in all His works. The Lord is near to all who call upon Him, To all who call upon Him in truth. He will fulfill the desire of those who fear Him; He also will hear their cry and save them. The Lord preserves all who love Him, But all the wicked He will destroy.” ‭‭Psalms‬ ‭145:8-9, 17-20‬ ‭NKJV‬‬

“Therefore humble yourselves under the mighty hand of God, that He may exalt you in due time, casting all your care upon Him, for He cares for you.” ‭‭I Peter‬ ‭5:6-7‬ ‭NKJV‬‬

God warns everyone the same, Gods rules and principles apply the same for everyone. We have free will and if we choose to engage with God there are casual outcomes that are predictable, same goes for rejecting God.

In what way do you find the warnings provided to the messengers were exclusive? Noah warned while he built the boat, faithful to God’s commands. The people have free will and rejected. God warned Adam and eve ( the only two people at the time) and they were punished as they are due. Without favoritism God rewards those who seek Him and are faithful to the realities of life God set forward and He punishes those who reject Him. Moses didn’t get to go into the promised land because he hit the rock when God told him to speak to it instead. Lot warned his family in Genesis 19: 12-14 but they thought he was just joking. As they fled Lot’s wife died on the way out of town because she looked back (something they had also been warned against), not wishing to leave her normal behind and she paid the consequence. David didn’t get to build God’s temple his hands were too bloody, the Israelites... oh those poor fools so many died when they returned to sin and rejected God. Jeremiah is a great book for that. As for Enoch, not much is said but he seems to have been such good friends with God, God couldn’t wait to bring him home. Relational rewards do not equate favoritism.

Take Nineveh for example, God sent Jonah to warn them. (When Jonah disobeyed there were consequences, as there are for all who disobey) when Jonah warned, Nianevah listened to God’s warning and subjugated themselves to God. God rejected and they prospered for 150 years until Nahum in which case they reject God and were destroyed.

God does not show favoritism in that God reacts the same to everyone depending on their free will choices. In a predictable and verifiable way, a principle of reality truer than the science of man can explain. Trust God, receive the reward of closeness to God. Trust with faith and zeal to fully experience the Love God desires to give each of us His children. Reject God and suffer the consequences of distance from God. Reject with enough zeal and feel Gods wrath. This reality applies to all equally in that God does not show favoritism. Jeremiah 17:5-8

“But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you; that ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust.” ‭‭Matthew‬ ‭5:44-45‬ ‭KJV‬‬

Solomon got pretty down thinking about it from man’s perspective: “This, too, I carefully explored: Even though the actions of godly and wise people are in God’s hands, no one knows whether God will show them favor. The same destiny ultimately awaits everyone, whether righteous or wicked, good or bad, ceremonially clean or unclean, religious or irreligious. Good people receive the same treatment as sinners, and people who make promises to God are treated like people who don’t. It seems so wrong that everyone under the sun suffers the same fate. Already twisted by evil, people choose their own mad course, for they have no hope. There is nothing ahead but death anyway. There is hope only for the living. As they say, “It’s better to be a live dog than a dead lion!”” ‭‭Ecclesiastes‬ ‭9:1-4‬ ‭NLT‬‬

But from Gods perspective, as I have come to understand it, The way the realities of God engage and interact with this grand experiment of free will are loving and measured equally among His creations.

“A false balance is abomination to the LORD: But a just weight is his delight.” ‭‭Proverbs‬ ‭11:1‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“The Lord detests double standards; he is not pleased by dishonest scales.” ‭‭Proverbs‬ ‭20:23‬ ‭NLT‬‬

“The Lord demands accurate scales and balances; he sets the standards for fairness.” ‭‭Proverbs‬ ‭16:11‬ ‭NLT‬‬

“For we are each responsible for our own conduct.” ‭‭Galatians‬ ‭6:5‬ ‭NLT‬‬

It is true God made some people especially for His work, dedicated before birth (Jeremiah 1:3) but this is also not favoritism for in knowing how we would react, He still made us. All of us, even those who choose not to be appreciative.

You might not care for the reference as it is a more challenging concept and from Romans as well, but it explains the concept. “Are we saying, then, that God was unfair? Of course not! For God said to Moses, “I will show mercy to anyone I choose, and I will show compassion to anyone I choose.” So it is God who decides to show mercy. We can neither choose it nor work for it. For the Scriptures say that God told Pharaoh, “I have appointed you for the very purpose of displaying my power in you and to spread my fame throughout the earth.” So you see, God chooses to show mercy to some, and he chooses to harden the hearts of others so they refuse to listen. Well then, you might say, “Why does God blame people for not responding? Haven’t they simply done what he makes them do?” No, don’t say that. Who are you, a mere human being, to argue with God? Should the thing that was created say to the one who created it, “Why have you made me like this?” When a potter makes jars out of clay, doesn’t he have a right to use the same lump of clay to make one jar for decoration and another to throw garbage into? In the same way, even though God has the right to show his anger and his power, he is very patient with those on whom his anger falls, who are destined for destruction. He does this to make the riches of his glory shine even brighter on those to whom he shows mercy, who were prepared in advance for glory.” ‭‭Romans‬ ‭9:14-23‬ ‭NLT‬‬

“The Lord is not slack concerning His promise, as some count slackness, but is longsuffering toward us, not willing that any should perish but that all should come to repentance.” ‭‭II Peter‬ ‭3:9‬ ‭NKJV‬‬

Best I can tell ‘God’s chosen’ are those whom God made that also choose God. We can be chosen if we want to be... and God would Love us all to be. But some will not want that, and God still made them even though He knows the outcome will be rejection. He still loves them enough to let them have their life and still reject Him. In that opportunity there is no favoritism.

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– MordenGeist 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

You make a good argument, Cotton. Makes sense. Will look at it thru a new lens, now.

You wouldn't happen to be one of those rare Pastors who really knows his sh*t would you? If so, respect. If not, even more respect. Thanks for taking the time.

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– LoobintheToobin 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

God bless you for your positive resection friend, your words are a warm encouragement to my heart. I was thinking about how best to explain what is very complicated concept and prayed for a while about it. God woke me up early as he has been doing lately (I’m anything but a morning person) and He guided me to the best explanation. The Holy Spirit provided the Content, I am blessed to get to facilitate The Truth and help your understanding while growing my own ability to communicate those realities. I sent it to my mom to make sure the reasoning was sound. God thinks you are worth the time, and I do too. Much love friend.

I am not a pastor, though it’s funny you mention that as another commenter recently suggested it. I’m a doodler and a noodles by trade, if there is a trade left to be had these days. Making up lost time for not standing up for God. Seeking to please Him first, been a big life change for me this year. My own great awakening to quantum understanding... oh if only everyone could see what I see and feel complete as I now feel. I pray with God that all may repent and return to God that we may truly have equality in God and Peace through unity of the Holy Spirit. A real utopia of spirit that man promises but can never provide.

“Since the day that your fathers came out of the land of Egypt until this day, I have even sent to you all My servants the prophets, daily rising up early and sending them.” Jeremiah 7:25 New King James Version Thanks to Pentecost and the Holy Spirit we can all be iron sharpening iron. A mighty army for such a time as this. 17 ‘And it shall come to pass in the last days, says God, That I will pour out of My Spirit on all flesh; Your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, Your young men shall see visions, Your old men shall dream dreams. Acts 2:17 New King James Version

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