Like most of you, I have been watching this board and contributing here and there over the months and have drawn great inspiration from it. And there have been many ugly things about the human race and its institutions that have been illuminated here. I don't know if it is true, but there has been discussion on this board about docs/hospitals being incentivized to avoid ivermectin and HCQ, and instead place people on ventilators... and when they die, the incentive is collected. Maybe the docs truly believe in the ventilator approach and they're interpreting the money coming through as a payment to help the hospital to fight the pandemic, so they think it's okay. And maybe some are just greedy and evil.
If the incentives are real, how do we prove it?
And, if we prove the incentives are real, then how do we identify the docs and hospitals that took the money with evil in their hearts? Tougher to prove, but if we can identify them, then we can at least make them explain themselves.
I believe you will be able to tell. Did a bunch of people begin rushing to get an appointment with them for actual treatment?
No -- they sold out or are cookie cutter doctors that only learned how to read AMA and NIH/CDC guidance. -- I have come to the conclusion that this is 95+ % of "doctors" practicing (or pretending) medicine.
YES -- well hallelujah, you just found an actual doctor. You better get in good with that guy. He/ she's is a priceless rarety in today's world.
Absolutely. Find a real doc. My hunch... baby-boomer aged docs are the easiest to corrupt. Does not mean all of them. Its a generation that went astray with greed, in my opinion.
Agreed. Although, greed and corruption is not only their generations vice, they did engender and embrace it quite whole heartedly.
Remember in the 1980s when they were all talking about how they were yuppies -- wanted it all now. They were the first instant gratification generation and the internet didn't even existfor the masses yet.
Definitely. And, I am a gen-X, but of the variety very aligned from a values perspective with the Greatest Generation. It pains me to be growing up surrounded by the anti-traditionalists. Don't get me wrong... advances are good... it's the values systems (or lack thereof) in which the advances are made that ruin things. But I'm preaching to the choir here.
I'm a "baby-boomer" aged 70. How many doctors do you know of 65+ who are still working? I think that you are unjustifiably targeting an extremely small group with your hatred.
The youngest baby boomers are around 55 years old or older today. Many baby boomers have continued working past 64 and I have known many who were working at 70 not because they needed the money, but because they defined their worth in life by that metric.
It's interesting you suggest my comment is hatred. Perhaps you should re read it. I pointed out a very valid observation that was clearly a defining cultural characteristic to a generation. I lived through the early 80s I remember the commercialism and self-bragging about being yuppies.
Don't accuse me of hate when a self identifying characteristic to a large part of a generation didn't age well.
Probably through the courts.
Evil SoB's tend to be good record keepers, otherwise how do they get their share of the loot? Very good chance we can reverse engineer or figure out what they did if/when we get our hands on the proper records from the proper agencies. Hospital admin are as at fault as many of the docs and quite a few nurses no doubt.
Who pays the monies for the covid death certs? FOIA effective there? Paper trail somewhere, but I know nothing of all that stuff. No clue how county/state/federal systems overlap or interface in health care.
Just spit-balling (and poorly), may not be solvable till we regain control, then the hunt is on for sure.
Some day I want to do a FOIA. I need to get off my ass and learn how.
Lol... or two, or three...
Probably many are using ventilators because of a criteria checklist that patients meet AND they don't have any other ideas BECAUSE they don't know what's going on. For instance, we know now that the spike proteins are endothelial damage in blood vessels and suddenly we find that also some patients are full of arachnidoic acid which is shredding the tender surfaces even more. Must make it really easy to blow out a lung, not to mention painful with the added pressure forcing acid into every cranny.
Sadly, I think this is more true than not. Thanks for the insight.