Whenever I relay these issues to my wife she dismisses them with "15 year olds know what they're doing" and "you know what you're doing at 14." She's right. These allegations are nothingburger distractions from actually raping actual children. Using the same word for a teenager who can bear children and a little kid that has bo puberty at all is twisted and weird and discredits any movement toward protecting actual innocents
Werent you all like 13 when you took your oath to christ and a church and all the grownups and family said you were your own moral agent now? Or were bar mitvahed and called a man? It's hyperbolic and disingenuous.
My wife was a 15 year old girl once and I trust that she understood moral behavior. Some girls just want the money and the attention more than their virtue.
Im not saying it's not predatory just that it's not pedophilia. Pedophiles rape children. Children can't get pregnant. Industry sluts pimped for deals need abortions. They are sexually mature.
I understood like consequence and sexual decisions and grown ass responsibility at 15. I worked nights til close bc my dad was outta work. I brought home food for my brothers all the time and i bought them Christmas presents. I was an adult myself morally already at 15. Most people are.
i was a girl of aget 15 once too and thought i wanted sex and experiences. took years to realize a lot of what happened to me wasn’t right, i didn’t really want to do things once we got started, or got to a point where i was too scared to say anything, and forcefully made to either continue or do MORE things. the guys of course were older and stronger. u do things at that age because u don’t know any better and everyone else you know is supposedly doing it that’s how the mind of a child works. as a child entering thay situation, u truly don’t think things will take the turns that they can and often do take. you end up trusting this person, oh they want to be intimate with me they must care about me they wouldn’t hurt me!!!
i couldn’t admit i was raped and forced into things (even by long term boyfriends) until i was in my late 20s. i’m barely 30 now. it takes a long time for trauma to settle in or even realize what has been done to you especially when you THOUGHT you wanted it. i knew these situations i had been in made me feel bad, made me scared, hurt me, made me cry after and feel used and dirty, but at that young age i thought that’s just what sex was and how it always is. it took a boyfriend doing it to me and doing self reflection YEARS after the incidents, to really realize this shit is wrong! and when it gets to the parts you don’t want to do or are uncomfortable with or scared of and then held down or forced down and roughly man handled etc…. no that is not consent and that is not what you wanted. it’s scary being young and with someone stronger and older in that setting you’re scared to scream for help or run out of the room or do anything to protect yourself because when you try to stop they get mad and more mean and more forceful and it only gets worse from there. it’s also scary because you know you will get in trouble by parents for being honest about being sexually involved when you still are a child. you have nowhere to turn to really unless you have super understanding parents, but it’s so confusing when you truly think people doing it care about you in some way because you were intimate. girls are wired in such a different way than guys and being physically intimate often in our minds means so much more than it does to men. it’s even worse when you’re young and confused and impressionable! tldr…. you are a still child at 15 period.
I understand that. But at 14-15 I had a much older man grooming me. He groomed others and is a pedo. I understand that pedo means little girls, not teens. He has a system to groom little girls and I kind of knew at the time. It really didn’t all click, because I was 15. I was extremely intelligent, my reading and foreign languages were through the roof and I was creative. But I was very young and still a child. I did not understand like I do now. I did not and could not understand the way I did when I was 18-20. That is why there is such thing as statutory rape. If you prey on someone you KNOW doesn’t fully understand, that’s rape. 15 is mentally a child. 15 year olds can have responsibilities and even help support their household, but they are still children.
Nah men aren't slapping those girls' psychology or groping their wisdom. Their hips are wide and round and their breasts are full and their skin is smooth. I understand what you're saying, which is why i said "I'm not saying it isn't predatory" but it is still totally nothing whatsoever in the realm of pedophilia.
If you show a heterosexual man a sexually presenting teenager all of the sex boxes are checked in the reptile brain. Obviously that's a porous spectrum varying by type and individual but at a point as a teenager it's true of all women. That same display is, i imagine anyway, disgusting and enraging if there's no biological signals of receptivity to impregnation and nursing. I know people were quite enraged by Cuties for example.
True, my wife says the same but even though a 15 year old may know what they are doing, they are still impressionable at that age. Doesn't take much for someone to manipulate that, especially when you add the essence of fame and money to the mix. These pedos know exactly what they are doing. I sure as hell can't speak for those it's happened to and why some take so long to come out with it but as we've seen over the last several years it's pretty easy to distinguish between the Blasey-Fords and the Morrisettes and McGowans.
Sure all true but also true of a 22 year old. Pedophiles don't have sex w 15 year olds, who fully display grown adult sexually mature sex features. Pedophiles rape kids w no pubes no lobes no mounds no signals. That's why it's twisted and vile.
from wikipedia: Hebephilia is the strong, persistent sexual interest by adults in pubescent children who are in early adolescence, typically ages 11–14 ..
It differs from pedophilia (the primary or exclusive sexual interest in prepubescent children), and from ephebophilia (the primary sexual interest in later adolescents, typically ages 15–19).
Ill respectfully disagree with you. I get your point though. As far as social circles go and stuff, I dont even care for hearing about a 30 years old dating a 18, 19, or 20byear old. Like does a person that does that not have the abilities to score a woman near their age? I see it that way because i think even young adults are easily manipulated.
I was 19 with a 32 year old but I was mature for my age. He came into my work and we really hit it off. We were together for years and it didn’t work out because I realized I was a bad person at the time and he needed a fresh start from the likes of me. With my upbringing, I had to mature quickly and take care of the home and siblings, etc.
Yeah I'm not advocating for relationships with 15 year olds but this is the correct take. You can't change your mind 10 years later after the fame and fortune have worn off and call take-backsies for social credit.
A naive 15-year-old girl who mistook a manipulative sexual predator for a caring mentor and was then groomed and exploited wasn't out there trading sex for fame. She was groomed and then statutorily raped by someone she trusted, which can have devastating emotional and physical consequences that she, as a child, would not have anticipated. That's why we have statutory rape laws, to protect children who may be sexually developed but are not yet full adults.
Whenever I relay these issues to my wife she dismisses them with "15 year olds know what they're doing" and "you know what you're doing at 14." She's right. These allegations are nothingburger distractions from actually raping actual children. Using the same word for a teenager who can bear children and a little kid that has bo puberty at all is twisted and weird and discredits any movement toward protecting actual innocents
Werent you all like 13 when you took your oath to christ and a church and all the grownups and family said you were your own moral agent now? Or were bar mitvahed and called a man? It's hyperbolic and disingenuous.
My wife was a 15 year old girl once and I trust that she understood moral behavior. Some girls just want the money and the attention more than their virtue.
Im not saying it's not predatory just that it's not pedophilia. Pedophiles rape children. Children can't get pregnant. Industry sluts pimped for deals need abortions. They are sexually mature.
I understood like consequence and sexual decisions and grown ass responsibility at 15. I worked nights til close bc my dad was outta work. I brought home food for my brothers all the time and i bought them Christmas presents. I was an adult myself morally already at 15. Most people are.
i was a girl of aget 15 once too and thought i wanted sex and experiences. took years to realize a lot of what happened to me wasn’t right, i didn’t really want to do things once we got started, or got to a point where i was too scared to say anything, and forcefully made to either continue or do MORE things. the guys of course were older and stronger. u do things at that age because u don’t know any better and everyone else you know is supposedly doing it that’s how the mind of a child works. as a child entering thay situation, u truly don’t think things will take the turns that they can and often do take. you end up trusting this person, oh they want to be intimate with me they must care about me they wouldn’t hurt me!!!
i couldn’t admit i was raped and forced into things (even by long term boyfriends) until i was in my late 20s. i’m barely 30 now. it takes a long time for trauma to settle in or even realize what has been done to you especially when you THOUGHT you wanted it. i knew these situations i had been in made me feel bad, made me scared, hurt me, made me cry after and feel used and dirty, but at that young age i thought that’s just what sex was and how it always is. it took a boyfriend doing it to me and doing self reflection YEARS after the incidents, to really realize this shit is wrong! and when it gets to the parts you don’t want to do or are uncomfortable with or scared of and then held down or forced down and roughly man handled etc…. no that is not consent and that is not what you wanted. it’s scary being young and with someone stronger and older in that setting you’re scared to scream for help or run out of the room or do anything to protect yourself because when you try to stop they get mad and more mean and more forceful and it only gets worse from there. it’s also scary because you know you will get in trouble by parents for being honest about being sexually involved when you still are a child. you have nowhere to turn to really unless you have super understanding parents, but it’s so confusing when you truly think people doing it care about you in some way because you were intimate. girls are wired in such a different way than guys and being physically intimate often in our minds means so much more than it does to men. it’s even worse when you’re young and confused and impressionable! tldr…. you are a still child at 15 period.
Ehh i have to disagree. You're talking about actually being sexually assaulted there not saying "want fame will suck dick."
I understand that. But at 14-15 I had a much older man grooming me. He groomed others and is a pedo. I understand that pedo means little girls, not teens. He has a system to groom little girls and I kind of knew at the time. It really didn’t all click, because I was 15. I was extremely intelligent, my reading and foreign languages were through the roof and I was creative. But I was very young and still a child. I did not understand like I do now. I did not and could not understand the way I did when I was 18-20. That is why there is such thing as statutory rape. If you prey on someone you KNOW doesn’t fully understand, that’s rape. 15 is mentally a child. 15 year olds can have responsibilities and even help support their household, but they are still children.
Nah men aren't slapping those girls' psychology or groping their wisdom. Their hips are wide and round and their breasts are full and their skin is smooth. I understand what you're saying, which is why i said "I'm not saying it isn't predatory" but it is still totally nothing whatsoever in the realm of pedophilia.
If you show a heterosexual man a sexually presenting teenager all of the sex boxes are checked in the reptile brain. Obviously that's a porous spectrum varying by type and individual but at a point as a teenager it's true of all women. That same display is, i imagine anyway, disgusting and enraging if there's no biological signals of receptivity to impregnation and nursing. I know people were quite enraged by Cuties for example.
True, my wife says the same but even though a 15 year old may know what they are doing, they are still impressionable at that age. Doesn't take much for someone to manipulate that, especially when you add the essence of fame and money to the mix. These pedos know exactly what they are doing. I sure as hell can't speak for those it's happened to and why some take so long to come out with it but as we've seen over the last several years it's pretty easy to distinguish between the Blasey-Fords and the Morrisettes and McGowans.
Sure all true but also true of a 22 year old. Pedophiles don't have sex w 15 year olds, who fully display grown adult sexually mature sex features. Pedophiles rape kids w no pubes no lobes no mounds no signals. That's why it's twisted and vile.
from wikipedia: Hebephilia is the strong, persistent sexual interest by adults in pubescent children who are in early adolescence, typically ages 11–14 ..
It differs from pedophilia (the primary or exclusive sexual interest in prepubescent children), and from ephebophilia (the primary sexual interest in later adolescents, typically ages 15–19).
Those words were never used until the Roman Catholic Church was fighting off pedophilia charges in court left and right.
How about we just call the people taking advantage of underage girls and boys pedophiles?
There's a reason pedos hate that word and do their best to change the language...
lots of sickos love the young teenage look.
Your wife probably banged the entire football team before she met you.
Home schooled then Christian academy no football team
Ill respectfully disagree with you. I get your point though. As far as social circles go and stuff, I dont even care for hearing about a 30 years old dating a 18, 19, or 20byear old. Like does a person that does that not have the abilities to score a woman near their age? I see it that way because i think even young adults are easily manipulated.
Sounds dishonest to me. Why would a single man want 30 instead of 20? I think it's just envy that makes people hate on it.
I was 19 with a 32 year old but I was mature for my age. He came into my work and we really hit it off. We were together for years and it didn’t work out because I realized I was a bad person at the time and he needed a fresh start from the likes of me. With my upbringing, I had to mature quickly and take care of the home and siblings, etc.
Yeah I'm not advocating for relationships with 15 year olds but this is the correct take. You can't change your mind 10 years later after the fame and fortune have worn off and call take-backsies for social credit.
A naive 15-year-old girl who mistook a manipulative sexual predator for a caring mentor and was then groomed and exploited wasn't out there trading sex for fame. She was groomed and then statutorily raped by someone she trusted, which can have devastating emotional and physical consequences that she, as a child, would not have anticipated. That's why we have statutory rape laws, to protect children who may be sexually developed but are not yet full adults.
amen.
Well it should be addressed and acknowledged and confronted by women who tricked in. It doesn't seem like she's seeking damages, just talking about it