This situation is mind-blowing to me. My wife is a nurse in the air guard. She is a traditional guardsman. They are required to be some sort of nurse in the civilian world. She happens to be an ER nurse. So if the states start pulling this shit, all they are doing is hurting other hospitals.
People forget that the National Guard is not a full-time job. Many of the national guard members who have medical qualification probably already have full-time jobs as nurses or doctors. So you’re going to take them away from their real full-time job and stick them on permanent national guard duty in a clinic that they’re not familiar with.
We’re talking minus double digit productivity here.
Impersonating a doctor or a nurse is a serious crime. Real providers will be taken away from their full time jobs to do this. It's six of one and half dozen of the other.
Is the National Guard similar to the army reserve in Australia? I.e. a part time volunteer army primarily used for domestic humanitarian operations? Because if that's the case, it wouldn't seem like much effort for NG members to just quit. I know quite a few reserve members who have quit after seeing the military deployed in Sydney.
The soldier can't be sued but the hospital probably could still get sued. They aren't going to let National Guardsmen commit medical malpractice.
99.9% of the National Guard requested will end up doing odds and ends around the hospitals. The more overly qualified ones might be let into patient rooms to administer shots and IV's and other general primary care tasks and thats a strong maybe.
At best this will reduce the menial tasks from actual qualified nurses so they can access more patients.
Hospitals have a cafeteria staff that does food and meal prep. And a janitorial staff that does cleaning.
The odds and ends I'm referring to are things that aid in the daily tasks nurses have to do. Reports, paperwork, data entry, preparing beds, sanitizing beds, getting patients to and from their beds, taking vitals, meal delivery, patient checks, and much more. All of these menial tasks will free up the remaining nurses to focus on qualified nurse related things.
I don't know exactly how many NG members have been activated or will be called on. Her wording makes it sound like a 1:1 ratio of fired nurse to guardsmen. In the same EO it allows for and calls on retired health care workers and out of state health care workers to replace nurses as well.
I know she said she was going to do it and even signed an executive order to do it but as of yet I don't think she has activated them. So either it was a bluff or enough of the nurses got the shot or the hospitals weren't really impacted with whatever staff shortages were purported. Downstate (Queens) have called for her to send some National Guard to help out at Rikers prison and she has not sent any National Guard there either.
If they declare a state of emergency, I'm not sure you could sue. I think healthcare workers are protected from liability during a state of emergency with the exceptions of gross negligence and criminal misconduct.
Sueings probably going to speed up the collapse. What is our goal? Go back to work on volunteer status until the system reboots? Or cut out the cancer and keep running around the surgery?
This situation is mind-blowing to me. My wife is a nurse in the air guard. She is a traditional guardsman. They are required to be some sort of nurse in the civilian world. She happens to be an ER nurse. So if the states start pulling this shit, all they are doing is hurting other hospitals.
This lady is as least as crazy as Cuomo.
I would go to the local animal hospital instead.
They wouldn't be able to treat me, but at least they would care.
People forget that the National Guard is not a full-time job. Many of the national guard members who have medical qualification probably already have full-time jobs as nurses or doctors. So you’re going to take them away from their real full-time job and stick them on permanent national guard duty in a clinic that they’re not familiar with.
We’re talking minus double digit productivity here.
And a more notable issue. Less pay for the same work. That’ll be good for the NG person
Impersonating a doctor or a nurse is a serious crime. Real providers will be taken away from their full time jobs to do this. It's six of one and half dozen of the other.
I think this Governor is fos. She has no plan.
Is the National Guard similar to the army reserve in Australia? I.e. a part time volunteer army primarily used for domestic humanitarian operations? Because if that's the case, it wouldn't seem like much effort for NG members to just quit. I know quite a few reserve members who have quit after seeing the military deployed in Sydney.
The soldier can't be sued but the hospital probably could still get sued. They aren't going to let National Guardsmen commit medical malpractice.
99.9% of the National Guard requested will end up doing odds and ends around the hospitals. The more overly qualified ones might be let into patient rooms to administer shots and IV's and other general primary care tasks and thats a strong maybe.
At best this will reduce the menial tasks from actual qualified nurses so they can access more patients.
Hospitals have a cafeteria staff that does food and meal prep. And a janitorial staff that does cleaning.
The odds and ends I'm referring to are things that aid in the daily tasks nurses have to do. Reports, paperwork, data entry, preparing beds, sanitizing beds, getting patients to and from their beds, taking vitals, meal delivery, patient checks, and much more. All of these menial tasks will free up the remaining nurses to focus on qualified nurse related things.
I don't know exactly how many NG members have been activated or will be called on. Her wording makes it sound like a 1:1 ratio of fired nurse to guardsmen. In the same EO it allows for and calls on retired health care workers and out of state health care workers to replace nurses as well.
I know she said she was going to do it and even signed an executive order to do it but as of yet I don't think she has activated them. So either it was a bluff or enough of the nurses got the shot or the hospitals weren't really impacted with whatever staff shortages were purported. Downstate (Queens) have called for her to send some National Guard to help out at Rikers prison and she has not sent any National Guard there either.
Roofie, no one is going to let a lumber jack do anesthesiology.
In the UK, nobody is allowed to move a patient unless they have passed the "manual handling" training course, as a minimum.
I wonder how many of the NG are taking the jab ?.
The jab is going to cause shortages of all skill sets through out the entire nation ...
I don't think any one of these nit wits have thought any of it through....just a bunch of spoiled kids mad they are not getting their way
If they declare a state of emergency, I'm not sure you could sue. I think healthcare workers are protected from liability during a state of emergency with the exceptions of gross negligence and criminal misconduct.
Sueings probably going to speed up the collapse. What is our goal? Go back to work on volunteer status until the system reboots? Or cut out the cancer and keep running around the surgery?