This isn't a debate

Dude don't be obtuse. I wasn't saying it can't be debated, I said it wasn't framed as a debate - it did not come with critique or comment. And I never accused you of personally downvoting me. Quit inventing goalposts.

And yes, marxism is inherently wrong. Cells are a constituants of a body, societies are composed of individuals. One isn't conscious so can neither decide for itself, not be tyanized, the other can. They aren't comparable. There is nothing of value extrapolating up and marxists do NOT have a point here or anywhere.

Posting without critique or framing is NOT the examination you describe. It's dogma and propoganda subtlely slipped knowingly or otherwise, no different than if I slipped without comment some cleverly disguised Thomas Sowell quote into a commy sub on Reddit.