Its not as bad as you think. They do not blanket report all people who see a shrink to the fbi or state police. It’s if someone tells a shrink they are homicidal or basically planning suicide or sperging out about hurting people. obviously never good idea for someone to tell a doctor they own firearms either. I would tell someone if they need help try to find a shrink they can trust to not just be like “your problem is you are not commie enough”. And don’t worry about it since being unvaccinated especially if you end up on a list by being fired for it, or a pissed off ex girlfriend, is far more likely to be pursued as an illegal firearm ban than the thousands of mental health treatment seekers who they have no reason to believe they own a gun or are a “threat” unless the patient basically tells them
Bullshit. The VAST majority of mental health professionals are extreme lefties. A large percentage of them will actively look for ways to report their patients as a danger to society, or to their spouse and children, or whatever they have to do if they know it will end up with gun confiscation. If they can't report it to law enforcement directly because of conservative state laws, they'll secretly report it to someone in CPS or some other department that's infested with liberals or they'll report it to some federal agency. If there is any tiny sliver of a chance to get someone's guns confiscated, they'll do everything in their power to find some way to get it done. Red flag laws represent far more than a tiny sliver of an opening.
Many states have added laws that passively give medical records to police when it comes to mental health under the predicate of "Who are we dealing with on this call." If the individual is flagged for specific medications in the state registry - this depends entirely on the State Laws presently under the 10th Amendment.
I hear your post and I thank you for it - My intent with my response is simply to add some realism to the complexity of the issue.
Involuntary treatment and guardianships or on the higher end of mental health problems. I agree with what you’re saying too. I’m saying if you go talk to someone for depression or anxiety and it can help do it. It’s more important to avoid being on a list as a gun owner than being on a list for getting help. If they’re gonna start doing it on a large scale we have bigger problems. It’s like standing your ground they want to intimidate you from going to school board meetings and voicing your opinion in a similar way
This is a truth many here will ultimately have to face.
At what point do you, fundamentally, device to break with society?
Everyone I know who is seriously into freedom ends up at a point where they just stop and walk. Encroachment is like that. We can stand and fight it, and we should - humans can only do it or so long and not tire.
That's the true insidiousness of the New World Order - they understand this - which is why every 20 years they do a pretty large shift.
1980s - War on Drugs went full woooooo
2000s - War on Terror went wooooooo
2020s - BioMedical Police State Rises to wage war on yet another "Invisible enemy" and they say not even your genetics should be private.
At what point do you just say "no more"? How can you? Aldous Huxley in Brave New World wrote of "reservations" where the unvaccinated lived free lives and even had babies. Of course in the story - civilized people would never live such a way.
Its not as bad as you think. They do not blanket report all people who see a shrink to the fbi or state police. It’s if someone tells a shrink they are homicidal or basically planning suicide or sperging out about hurting people. obviously never good idea for someone to tell a doctor they own firearms either. I would tell someone if they need help try to find a shrink they can trust to not just be like “your problem is you are not commie enough”. And don’t worry about it since being unvaccinated especially if you end up on a list by being fired for it, or a pissed off ex girlfriend, is far more likely to be pursued as an illegal firearm ban than the thousands of mental health treatment seekers who they have no reason to believe they own a gun or are a “threat” unless the patient basically tells them
Bullshit. The VAST majority of mental health professionals are extreme lefties. A large percentage of them will actively look for ways to report their patients as a danger to society, or to their spouse and children, or whatever they have to do if they know it will end up with gun confiscation. If they can't report it to law enforcement directly because of conservative state laws, they'll secretly report it to someone in CPS or some other department that's infested with liberals or they'll report it to some federal agency. If there is any tiny sliver of a chance to get someone's guns confiscated, they'll do everything in their power to find some way to get it done. Red flag laws represent far more than a tiny sliver of an opening.
This depends on the state actually.
Many states have added laws that passively give medical records to police when it comes to mental health under the predicate of "Who are we dealing with on this call." If the individual is flagged for specific medications in the state registry - this depends entirely on the State Laws presently under the 10th Amendment.
I hear your post and I thank you for it - My intent with my response is simply to add some realism to the complexity of the issue.
https://www.livescience.com/28617-prescription-meds-gun-control.html
I would actually say - checkout the Silly Giffords Gun Group as this is a Wolf out there in this paradigm working to take away these rights.
https://giffords.org/lawcenter/gun-laws/policy-areas/background-checks/mental-health-reporting/
They have 3 main things on this page, which states:
Involuntary treatment and guardianships or on the higher end of mental health problems. I agree with what you’re saying too. I’m saying if you go talk to someone for depression or anxiety and it can help do it. It’s more important to avoid being on a list as a gun owner than being on a list for getting help. If they’re gonna start doing it on a large scale we have bigger problems. It’s like standing your ground they want to intimidate you from going to school board meetings and voicing your opinion in a similar way
I agree completely.
This is a truth many here will ultimately have to face.
At what point do you, fundamentally, device to break with society?
Everyone I know who is seriously into freedom ends up at a point where they just stop and walk. Encroachment is like that. We can stand and fight it, and we should - humans can only do it or so long and not tire.
That's the true insidiousness of the New World Order - they understand this - which is why every 20 years they do a pretty large shift.
1980s - War on Drugs went full woooooo 2000s - War on Terror went wooooooo 2020s - BioMedical Police State Rises to wage war on yet another "Invisible enemy" and they say not even your genetics should be private.
At what point do you just say "no more"? How can you? Aldous Huxley in Brave New World wrote of "reservations" where the unvaccinated lived free lives and even had babies. Of course in the story - civilized people would never live such a way.