They had this giant heave ho this afternoon, it was just mind boggling. I do not criticize what their intent was but another commenter came into the middle of the scrum and just totally destroyed what ever these people thought they were bringing. All he did was say that "All things begin with Christ." It just goes right over their heads. I'm not even sure if this is truly what they are about.
Just an added thought; If you are secure in your faith in the Risen Savior, NOTHING should upset you. You should have an answer for every question, every criticism, every attack. They just simply don't. Dismissing people off hand equals weakness.
I looked for that person who said that, and the first one I found was you, saying, "I would suggest backing up just a bit until you arrive at the True Authority in these matters, which would be the One Lord of All." CIAMM then affirmed that you and I were saying the same thing, and then the conversation suddenly took another turn I don't quite understand.
I watched all the conversations today and don't recall another one such as you describe and didn't find it in initial search. It's a bit difficult to field the OP charge if this characterization of what happened today is already a bit divergent from my experience.
Of course all things begin with Christ, we are all about that, and dealing with the issue of universalism seems to have worked well and now moved on to some other charge that I'd love to cognize with you.
If you are secure in your faith in the Risen Savior, NOTHING should upset you. You should have an answer for every question, every criticism, every attack.
For background, the exact tool by which we sent the message was not technically a modmail but a ban tool, which can be accessed a couple ways. The ban tool always immediately copies the first line of text into the public log, but also creates a modmail for ongoing private discussion. In the same way, whenever anyone makes a comment deleted by a mod, the first line of the comment remains log-visible in those subs that have public logs. AFAIK all other modmail is private besides the first lines of ban notes (with the general disclaimer that admins and staff may see it, let alone hackers).
Again Andy, I apologize for not keeping this in mind and not forestalling this from happening while we were monitoring the new posts feed. It is our policy generally to write ban notes and modmail in a neutral voice, each approximating the voice of the other, so that stylistic analysis does not reveal which mod is performing the action. We both spotted the post at almost the same time and agreed to ban while keeping an open discussion on our options; but that strategy failed due to escalation, so please accept my apology.
Thank you. I didn't think you meant u/ColloidalAlumina because that person was exploring the limits of uncertainty about universalism, which I didn't think you sympathized with. So that explains that without explaining why it agreed with your mood today.
So, you've described a situation and I'm asking again, doesn't Matt. 18:15-17 indicate you should take it up privately and not spread these accusations about freely? Do you think you're taking it to the church? I'm interested about your views of Matt. 18 process (you could've contributed to the thread on that subject), but more important is that I make myself available to you for reconciliation.
So now I have to go searching for all the times I was called ridiculous and a liar for my contributions to your blog, that you have never been aware of? If I go and do this, I'm going to come back here with me saying majority affirmed thoughts that were called lies by your resident hack. This is not already well known? Are you dismissing me again?
Sorry, there seems to be a bit of haste in your first sentence there, totally understandable.
I'm usually the one to do the back research for the team, I'm not making you do it. I'm not one to rely heavily on unstated implications of my words, which is why my posts run so long.
I'm not here to dismiss but to obey Scriptures about, insofar as possible with me, to be at peace with all men, and to lay my gift down and be reconciled it before presenting it at the altar.
They had this giant heave ho this afternoon, it was just mind boggling. I do not criticize what their intent was but another commenter came into the middle of the scrum and just totally destroyed what ever these people thought they were bringing. All he did was say that "All things begin with Christ." It just goes right over their heads. I'm not even sure if this is truly what they are about.
Just an added thought; If you are secure in your faith in the Risen Savior, NOTHING should upset you. You should have an answer for every question, every criticism, every attack. They just simply don't. Dismissing people off hand equals weakness.
I looked for that person who said that, and the first one I found was you, saying, "I would suggest backing up just a bit until you arrive at the True Authority in these matters, which would be the One Lord of All." CIAMM then affirmed that you and I were saying the same thing, and then the conversation suddenly took another turn I don't quite understand.
I watched all the conversations today and don't recall another one such as you describe and didn't find it in initial search. It's a bit difficult to field the OP charge if this characterization of what happened today is already a bit divergent from my experience.
Of course all things begin with Christ, we are all about that, and dealing with the issue of universalism seems to have worked well and now moved on to some other charge that I'd love to cognize with you.
I affirm that.
–ColloidalAlumina 3 points 7 hours ago +3 / -0
Christ is the starting point of what Christianity is.
For background, the exact tool by which we sent the message was not technically a modmail but a ban tool, which can be accessed a couple ways. The ban tool always immediately copies the first line of text into the public log, but also creates a modmail for ongoing private discussion. In the same way, whenever anyone makes a comment deleted by a mod, the first line of the comment remains log-visible in those subs that have public logs. AFAIK all other modmail is private besides the first lines of ban notes (with the general disclaimer that admins and staff may see it, let alone hackers).
Again Andy, I apologize for not keeping this in mind and not forestalling this from happening while we were monitoring the new posts feed. It is our policy generally to write ban notes and modmail in a neutral voice, each approximating the voice of the other, so that stylistic analysis does not reveal which mod is performing the action. We both spotted the post at almost the same time and agreed to ban while keeping an open discussion on our options; but that strategy failed due to escalation, so please accept my apology.
Thank you. I didn't think you meant u/ColloidalAlumina because that person was exploring the limits of uncertainty about universalism, which I didn't think you sympathized with. So that explains that without explaining why it agreed with your mood today.
So, you've described a situation and I'm asking again, doesn't Matt. 18:15-17 indicate you should take it up privately and not spread these accusations about freely? Do you think you're taking it to the church? I'm interested about your views of Matt. 18 process (you could've contributed to the thread on that subject), but more important is that I make myself available to you for reconciliation.
Reverse your question. I get "ridiculous" and "liar" as a first response, open forum. I have no way to respond without being deleted. Authoritarian.
So now I have to go searching for all the times I was called ridiculous and a liar for my contributions to your blog, that you have never been aware of? If I go and do this, I'm going to come back here with me saying majority affirmed thoughts that were called lies by your resident hack. This is not already well known? Are you dismissing me again?
Thy don't even like his name is what you were told just this very day. Now you act like you are unaware?
Sorry, there seems to be a bit of haste in your first sentence there, totally understandable.
I'm usually the one to do the back research for the team, I'm not making you do it. I'm not one to rely heavily on unstated implications of my words, which is why my posts run so long.
I'm not here to dismiss but to obey Scriptures about, insofar as possible with me, to be at peace with all men, and to lay my gift down and be reconciled it before presenting it at the altar.
Would it help if I addressed you as "my lord?"
Yes, you know everything, my lord.