RE "I found this in c/Christianity/logs "A moderator banned user Andy_Man45 - 3 days with reason: Stop acting a fool. Disruption of the community is not the purpose. We should expect your hormonal balance to have your feathers ruffled for 3 days, during which you'd need a baby"
If u/Andy_Man45's post is a "disruptive personal attack," which mod had the idea of responding to him with a personal attack too?"
Hi u/Andy_Man45 - You were BANNED?? - But you just Voluntarily got back to the Forum, after Voluntarily leaving the last time you were called a "liar" repeatedly. -
Myself DIStancing after yesterday something Shocking was Disclosed to me, -
I do Not know what has befallen you this time around. You are a KNOWledgable christian who I look up to for that. For this selfish reason I want you to Stay in the forum. Maybe how much I Appreciate you doesn't mean much, that I can understand, but this latest disaster... is UNjust.
For the record, just because someone is promoted to "moderator"-status does NOT give them the right to LORD-over others & call them Abusive... names , simply because they can get away... with so doing. Swampy has told us before "US MODERATORS STICK TOGETHER" - iow there are "NO consequences for Abusive-moderator behavior" ??
Instead, such a moderator should be strongly Admonished to Self-moderate their own behavior.
Failure to so do, only encourages a moderator's Emotional abuse to continue... as evidently today once again. And - in c/Christianity/logs... that QUOTE is Nowhere's to be found. much like DS actions = trying to cover up actions already. Doubly shameful.
PS: re "We should expect your hormonal balance to have your feathers ruffled for 3 days, during which you'd need a baby = what does that mean, & how is it even Addressing the issue ??
People are not just leaving the forum over other members, but also over the Moderators. - Dear Jesus please come take us HOME Quick...
You're mostly right, Rainbows. The ban note was a mild personal attack and the mod team is deciding what to do about it. And Andy returned voluntarily after a conflict, and yet we decided to give him another cool-off period because it appears that conflict jumped back to the surface and a block was the first thing we attempted, in accord with the block policy that we had previously just posted in the Improvements thread. (Remember when you asked us for better ban enforcement?)
There are consequences for abusive mod behavior, but they require more patience, process, and consultation because they are a more sensitive charge. We have privately disciplined ourselves in at least two cases where we were charged with imperfections. Usually that doesn't get published, but this relates to a public event, so it needs a public response.
I don't know what you mean by the quote not being found, we do not change or cover up the public logs after they are published and the quote is still visible at your link. The quote cuts off before the end, so "baby" was actually "babysitter". This is in reference to our recognition that sometimes an outburst is an expression of fight or flight (adrenalin or testosterone) and 3 days is a recommended cooling-off period on biological grounds. The intent is that the user recognize this too.
The best solution, Rainbows, is to wait patiently on the mod board for its resolution, and to speak positively where there is any virtue or praiseworthiness. Thank you for your bringing these points to light.
RE "I found this in c/Christianity/logs "A moderator banned user Andy_Man45 - 3 days with reason: Stop acting a fool. Disruption of the community is not the purpose. We should expect your hormonal balance to have your feathers ruffled for 3 days, during which you'd need a baby"
If u/Andy_Man45's post is a "disruptive personal attack," which mod had the idea of responding to him with a personal attack too?"
Hi u/Andy_Man45 - You were BANNED?? - But you just Voluntarily got back to the Forum, after Voluntarily leaving the last time you were called a "liar" repeatedly. -
Myself DIStancing after yesterday something Shocking was Disclosed to me, -
I do Not know what has befallen you this time around. You are a KNOWledgable christian who I look up to for that. For this selfish reason I want you to Stay in the forum. Maybe how much I Appreciate you doesn't mean much, that I can understand, but this latest disaster... is UNjust.
For the record, just because someone is promoted to "moderator"-status does NOT give them the right to LORD-over others & call them Abusive... names , simply because they can get away... with so doing. Swampy has told us before "US MODERATORS STICK TOGETHER" - iow there are "NO consequences for Abusive-moderator behavior" ??
Instead, such a moderator should be strongly Admonished to Self-moderate their own behavior.
Failure to so do, only encourages a moderator's Emotional abuse to continue... as evidently today once again. And - in c/Christianity/logs... that QUOTE is Nowhere's to be found. much like DS actions = trying to cover up actions already. Doubly shameful.
PS: re "We should expect your hormonal balance to have your feathers ruffled for 3 days, during which you'd need a baby = what does that mean, & how is it even Addressing the issue ??
People are not just leaving the forum over other members, but also over the Moderators. - Dear Jesus please come take us HOME Quick...
You're mostly right, Rainbows. The ban note was a mild personal attack and the mod team is deciding what to do about it. And Andy returned voluntarily after a conflict, and yet we decided to give him another cool-off period because it appears that conflict jumped back to the surface and a block was the first thing we attempted, in accord with the block policy that we had previously just posted in the Improvements thread. (Remember when you asked us for better ban enforcement?)
There are consequences for abusive mod behavior, but they require more patience, process, and consultation because they are a more sensitive charge. We have privately disciplined ourselves in at least two cases where we were charged with imperfections. Usually that doesn't get published, but this relates to a public event, so it needs a public response.
I don't know what you mean by the quote not being found, we do not change or cover up the public logs after they are published and the quote is still visible at your link. The quote cuts off before the end, so "baby" was actually "babysitter". This is in reference to our recognition that sometimes an outburst is an expression of fight or flight (adrenalin or testosterone) and 3 days is a recommended cooling-off period on biological grounds. The intent is that the user recognize this too.
The best solution, Rainbows, is to wait patiently on the mod board for its resolution, and to speak positively where there is any virtue or praiseworthiness. Thank you for your bringing these points to light.