The vaccine has not been proven safe and effective. If it was it would be approved by the FDA.
According to the Pfizer website their vaccine has NOT been approved. Therefore there is NO proof that the vaccine is safe or effective.
https://www.pfizer.com/products/product-detail/pfizer-biontech-covid-19-vaccine
As far as I am concerned the FDA is full of crap. So for me they are not the final word. Still even the compromised FDA will not give approval to the Vaccine.
I am hearing about big name people that are "pro vax" but anti mandate fighting on our side. As far as I am concerned they are full of crap. They are saying that the government has no business having mandates. Why in the world would we want to fight that battle? Why are they pretending that the vaccine without the mandate is safe without proof?
The battle right now should be these vaccines are not vaccines at all. They are experiments and anyone taking the shots are part of a experimental test. Basically a lab rat.
No one should be forced in any way to be involved in any medical experiments against their will. No matter how good it makes someone else feel.
This is NOT about mandates. That is just total BS. This is about being forced to be involved in a medical experiment with biological material that has not been proven to be safe or effective.
There are mandates for different vaccines already. It is a small jump for the courts and the public to toss the mandate nonsense aside.
So when someone says the vaccines are safe and effective why won't we take the shots. Our answer should be it is not up to us to prove the medical experiment is or is not safe. It is up to the manufacture to prove to the FDA through science they are safe and effective. They have not done that. So why should I blindly ignore science and put my trust in these multi-billion dollar corporations?
I agree with you whole heartedly.
I also think that once 'certain groups' are exempt from any mandate then it becomes null and void. Why do I have to comply but Joe Schmo who collects trash in congress is exempt?
As for employer mandated shots, 1st Joe said it on tv but didnt sign EO on it. So bosses run out to make rules based on a conversation only. People lose their jobs with or without the shot. Its up to the employers to fight the fake mandate with the govt, not people fighting their bosses.
Whether its a vaccine or a death jab, I have no issue allowing people who want it to get it, as long as the govt allows them to hear all side of the issue, and there are no mandates.
So as long as these folks fight against censorship and against mandates, I am okay
Yes, on the surface I agree. Under the surface the fact that the vaccine is not what everyone claims is the real problem. That is the number 1 issue. After that issue we can move on to mandates and censorship
If censorship is removed, everyone will know the vaxx is not what they claim in less than a week.
Informed consent is top priority. People should be allowed to freely make their own decisions if they are fully informed.
They're called a Limited Hangout and you're noble and good for not trusting them
Maybe, but the bottom line is this. There is no question that the vaccine is NOT approved by the FDA. That is not a conspiracy theory. That is what should be talked about all the time.
There is no reason in the world we should be accepting their talking points as the starting point and only point.