These guys seem sincere and really informed on the status quo, but I see lots of comments accusing them of being frauds, controlled opposition, etc. I've pretty much narrowed down the list of guys I listen to and these two are at the top of that list.
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Clif is ok by me, lots of insight, topics all over but educational. Not familiar with Max. Channelers have long said that the 'bug' or other alien started pushing evil into the minds of men long long ago, and has now culminated in the deep state control efforts. It matters not, even call it satan, same idea, no plan to meet personally either way.