I have a 'random thought' about 'contaminants'. Not arguing with your last point, just a thought. There's a requirement, in vaccines as well as in just about all medical practices, for 'purity'. This 'purity' is expressed in various ways, but 'parts per million' is one that comes to mind (it's not '100% purity' - some contamination is expected and allowed). So the 'raw ingredients' of the vax have to meet these criteria, and if they don't, the batch is typically destroyed. Now, I don't know what these exact criteria are, but let's just say - 'x' parts per million. If you test the product, and find contaminants that don't exceed 'x', you are good to go.
So as alarming as it may sound that some 'tester' somewhere finds 'something' in the vaccine, maybe they are just finding those small amounts that are allowed and expected? And as scary as it may look/sound to find some 'weird stuff' in a vaccine, if it's ultra small, maybe it's just not relevant (not big enough to matter). It's kinda like when they test food samples. There's all manner of nasty stuff in our food, but our bodies are well-equipped to deal with this and 100% purity is not even close to being required. Reminds me of the saying about sausages ... you may be better served not knowing exactly how the sausage is made ...
Valid point definitely. I do have a couple of counter points to it.
If we were to believe the accounts by Japanese officials, they could see different colorings in the batches they sent back - some were pink, some white and some dark. I am assuming that whatever the "x part in million" threshold, it is low enough as to not be seen with naked eye. And if the Japanese officials were lying, one would assume that we would have heard from Moderna/Pfizer an counter accusation or atleast an explanation.
Second counter point, assuming that not every single scientist who has conducted examination of vaccines under microscope is doing it wrong, you would not expect them to see these contaminants so easily. I especially trust Richard Fleming due to his extensive background - and even he was finding these contaminants fairly easily. I would say for every dozen nano-lipids he was able to find some contaminant. With "x in a million" standard, I would have expected to see miles and miles (microns and microns?) of uniform nano-lipids with one contaminant.
I have a 'random thought' about 'contaminants'. Not arguing with your last point, just a thought. There's a requirement, in vaccines as well as in just about all medical practices, for 'purity'. This 'purity' is expressed in various ways, but 'parts per million' is one that comes to mind (it's not '100% purity' - some contamination is expected and allowed). So the 'raw ingredients' of the vax have to meet these criteria, and if they don't, the batch is typically destroyed. Now, I don't know what these exact criteria are, but let's just say - 'x' parts per million. If you test the product, and find contaminants that don't exceed 'x', you are good to go.
So as alarming as it may sound that some 'tester' somewhere finds 'something' in the vaccine, maybe they are just finding those small amounts that are allowed and expected? And as scary as it may look/sound to find some 'weird stuff' in a vaccine, if it's ultra small, maybe it's just not relevant (not big enough to matter). It's kinda like when they test food samples. There's all manner of nasty stuff in our food, but our bodies are well-equipped to deal with this and 100% purity is not even close to being required. Reminds me of the saying about sausages ... you may be better served not knowing exactly how the sausage is made ...
Valid point definitely. I do have a couple of counter points to it.
If we were to believe the accounts by Japanese officials, they could see different colorings in the batches they sent back - some were pink, some white and some dark. I am assuming that whatever the "x part in million" threshold, it is low enough as to not be seen with naked eye. And if the Japanese officials were lying, one would assume that we would have heard from Moderna/Pfizer an counter accusation or atleast an explanation.
Second counter point, assuming that not every single scientist who has conducted examination of vaccines under microscope is doing it wrong, you would not expect them to see these contaminants so easily. I especially trust Richard Fleming due to his extensive background - and even he was finding these contaminants fairly easily. I would say for every dozen nano-lipids he was able to find some contaminant. With "x in a million" standard, I would have expected to see miles and miles (microns and microns?) of uniform nano-lipids with one contaminant.