Despite the fact I have written daily on how to get HCQ and Ivermectin on social media and my cousin eats it all up and loves it, when she and her mother and brother came down with it TWO WEEKS AGO they did nothing. Now their mother—my aunt—is in the hospital and two of my cousins have bad Covid.
So,,the one cousin is 66 and he’s lived two weeks with it without pneumonia or hospitalization, so he’s doing okay. Still, I’m recommending Ivermectin horse paste for him because after two weeks, he’s still feeling poorly. He can’t get Ivermectin in his town otherwise.
His sister—same thing. Two weeks into it...seems to have survived so far. Maybe some horse paste to get rid of it once and for all.
But my friggin aunt is now in the hospital and they refuse all the the therapeutics for her. Not yet on a intubator but it’s coming. Late 70”s.
I’m not going to let this happen. No effing way.
I need horse paste protocol. I need advice for aunt in hospital. I need prayers.
I am so frigging done with this bull shit. I am so mad at the universe but I am fighting for them.
Please do exactly this:
Make sure the hospital does not administer Remdesevere. Say she is allergic if you have to on admission. If this has already happened it is important to help her detox in whatever way possible by smuggling in NAC and Ivermectin. They will say no so don't ask. Just find a way.
If she was not hospitalized until after a couple weeks of illness like you posted she is likely already in the pulmonary phase of the illness (10+ days of symptoms) in which case she would not even be a candidate for Remdesevere. That is good news in terms of making sure she isn't poisoned in hospital. Instead they will give her a corticosteroid and blood thinner and supplemental oxygen. This is the correct treatment in the pulmonary phase. Most hospitals are defaulting to Dexamethasone for the steroid and Lovenox injections for the blood thinner.
The Lovenox is fine. Leave that alone. Ask them to switch from Dexamethasone to Methylprednisolone. If they haven't given the steroid yet ask then to administer Methylprednisolone. Dexamethasone and Methylprednisolone are in the same drug class so doctor should not object to the switch. If they refuse it isn't the end of the world but patients are having MUCH better results with the Methylprednisolone so I recommend that you do push for it. There are studies supporting M over D that you can provide if the doctor is very stubborn.
Don't panic if they won't administer Ivermectin. She should have it, yes, and you should get it to her if you can smuggle it in and they won't administer. Ivermectin is effective at every stage of the illness but possibly most important during the viral replication phase early on because we do not have many other drugs effective at preventing viral replication. If she is in the pulmonary phase of illness the most important thing is to manage inflammation and microclotting and there are many drugs that can be helpful for that that don't have the stigma of Ivermectin. Ivermectin is a great anti inflammatory too but if they won't give it to her and you can't get it to her, just make sure she gets the right steroid and focus on working with the doctors on what they ARE willing to do versus battling with them on what they won't do. There just isn't time in this situation so any legal wars won would be won at the potential cost that she isn't treated or is even harmed in the meantime.
Request that she receive recommended doses of every vitamin in the hospital protocol at covid19criticalcare.com/protocols Ask for every other drug in the hospital protocol too. I recommend requesting Ivermectin LAST after all your other requests have been fulfilled. I recommend not mentioning the specific protocol you're using because a doctor who is receptive will recognize the treatments you're requesting and work with you and a doctor who is not receptive may be more inclined to deny you if he or she thinks you're an anti vaxxer. Saving Ivermectin for last gives you a chance to get all the non controversial things taken care of as well as allowing you to gauge the doctor's receptivity to your input.
Vitamins are considered benign treatments so most doctors will not object and most vitamins in the protocol are water soluble so excess consumption will be excreted in waste. If they push back or indicate they won't go as high as recommended dose in protocol, use the water soluble argument and tell them her body will expel what it doesn't need but as a benign treatment it is not appropriate to deny it to a patient in case it will help.
Speak to doctors as you can get their attn., hopefully once daily, and be prepared with a list of your requests. Doctors need the calls to move quickly. With the doctors it is more important to have daily contact with them in early days of hospitalization to make sure they are ordering the vitamins and meds for her that you're requesting. Read the protocol carefully and track changes to D dimer and oxygenation to ensure she is receiving enough steroid and blood thinner to keep her stable. After 4-5 days if you don't talk to the Dr. daily it is ok as long as nurses are giving you updates and patient is making progress.
Make it clear that the patient is accepting high flow oxygen treatment but is not willing to accept ventilation. Ask the nurses to CLEAN HER CANNULA or OXYGEN FACE MASK at least once daily. When first admitted she may be too weak to complete the task on her own and it is critical that this be done to ensure there are no blockages for oxygen flow. I'm sorry to report this is not happening as a standard of care in hospitals right now and the blockages may very well be contributing to their justifying more invasive measures like ventilation.
Ask the nurses to help her move around as much as possible. She will not want to or feel very able to move and they will not want to be bothered with her but she will lose tremendous muscle mass and delay recovery the longer she is idle. Make sure physical therapists are seeing her daily and incorporating any movements she is able to make even from a lying down position. They should be getting her out of that bed to stand up and then graduate to walking as soon as possible but it may take several days depending on how far the illness progresses
Probably best to prepare yourself for at least 12 days in the hospital. Hopefully she recovers sooner. When you can get food and supplements to her in the hospital or at home, choose walnuts for oxygenation, tangerines for VITAMIN C and a high quality fish oil like Genestra brand. Also NAC and of course Ivermectin. This is not the time for dairy or meat as consuming both can create inflammation in the body. Those treats can be enjoyed again in the future. If you give her Quercetin and Zinc be sure to give the Quercetin at the opposite time of day as the Ivermectin since they may not react well together.
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Make sure you have a pulse oximeter waiting at home to monitor her blood oxygenation levels when she returns from the hospital.
Get very familiar with the covid19criticalcare.com website including reading the "Complete guide to the care of the COVID 19 patient" which will go into more detail about the general protocol.
Best wishes on a full and complete recovery!
P.s. My father was hospitalized with COVID for 13 days after foolishly declining early Ivermectin treatment at home. I did the exact things I suggested to you and he came home to us despite that at one time his D dimer was over 6,000 and he was requiring 15 Liters of Oxygen. It was a scary experience especially knowing the hospital treatment protocol is set up to incentivize failure. So, I just wanted to encourage you that even if you can't get everything in the protocol, whatever you can get WILL help.
The only drugs I was able to get for him in hospital from the protocol were the Methylprednisolone steroid and the blood thinner and the vitamins. I also smuggled Ivermectin in to him for about the first 4 days of his hospitalization in a green smoothie. They had a no food policy for COVID patients but I just didn't go away so I'm sure you can be similarly successful if you just insist. I brought him a green smoothie every morning after that with NAC and Quercetin mixed in (we ran out of Ivermectin) because they would not administer those supplements in the hospital.
You are a gem
Great information you provided.
Glad your father is out of the hospital and it seems as though you may have had a lot to do with that.
Good that you were allowed to visit. We weren't allowed to visit my brother...only if you were vaccinated you were allowed to see him.
I wasn't allowed to visit him either. I wasn't supposed to get as far as I got as a "dirty unvaxxed." My goal was just to get downstairs from the gatekeeper to the nurses station on the COVID floor to ensure my dad's smoothie was delivered to him by his nurse who I made sure was expecting me each morning.
To get past the gatekeeper was simple. I shamed her. When she asked for my papers I declined to disclose my vaccination status to her and told her it was legally wrong of her to ask me about my private health information and morally wrong for her to discriminate against me. I expressed sympathy that she was clearly a young woman, early in her career but told her that any time she has an employer who asks that she do something she knows is wrong, she has an obligation to disobey.
Then, in her full view I approached every doctor and nurse walking through the door to log in for their shift and asked if they felt comfortable watching their colleague discriminate against me. I don't remember now how many doctors and nurses I put on the spot...maybe 3-5...and then I reapproached the young lady at the front desk and politely asked her to ensure my father received the smoothie I was leaving for him. And she did.
The next day, I arrived at the same time prepared to do battle again with the gatekeeper but also open to the possibility that she could change her mind. I was pleasant and greeted her by name. She hadn't forgotten me! She waved me right through and I went down to the nurses station and delivered my dad's smoothie which I continued to do every day he was there.
I got lucky or maybe there was some supernatural aid that helped me, I'm not sure. I do know that I was firm and confident and polite but I refused to take no for an answer. As long as we're still dealing with humans and not robots, we will have a chance of success.
My favorite book on the subject of getting your way is called Never Split the Difference. Super empowering. Hopefully none of you use those skills against me in future!!
Your persistence and persuasion skills probably made the most positive difference in your father's recovery.
I'm sure he and the rest of your family are grateful to you for all that you did while he was there.
Thanks for letting us know how you went about doing this and hopefully it will let other people reading this understand that there are ways to approach, navigate and prevail a family member's or friend's hospital admittance during these stressful times we're all living through.
It's still unfathomable to think that we have to sneak in therapeutics to sick loved ones because the hospitals are more concerned with following a deadly protocol of remdesivir and vent dictated by the CDC. It still doesn't seem real that this is actually happening in the US.
When I had civid my dr prescribed this.
https://www.covid19treatmentguidelines.nih.gov/therapies/immunomodulators/fluvoxamine/
Unfortunately, if covert treatment is done by someone at the hospital, and she dies, they will blame that covert treatment, and by extension, the person who snuck in that treatment! Getting her out before any "non-approved treatment" is the safest thing, in regard to liability.
Unless they discharge her with supplemental oxygen (they will not if she leaves voluntarily and against doctor recommendations) or she has access to oxygen through some other personal network, leaving the hospital WILL NOT be an option.
People who propose solutions to "just leave the hospital" or "not go to the hospital" don't seem to get it that no one WANTS to go to the hospital and that by the time most people do go to the hospital for COVID they are nearly always in the pulmonary stage of the illness with blood oxygen levels at or below the mid to low 80s. Coming home without prescribed oxygen or other oxygen access in this scenario may result in death or permanent injury to the patient.
Your statement about liability sounds a lot like fear mongering to me and serves to discourage people from doing what is necessary for their loved ones. Patients are not dying from taking Ivermectin or NAC or Quercetin and patients who receive those meds and supplements during hospital treatment have increased stability during their illness as well as much improved survival rates.
Further, in the unlikely result of death after receiving these beneficial treatments, hospitals are not interested in cause of death and will not pay to perform an autopsy to determine if outside meds were administered. Hospitals are void of responsibility - or at least are operating as such - when their COVID patients die, so they just collect their check or checks depending on how many harmful treatments they administer and then they move on to the next victim. But by your name you're a NYC doctor so you know all this.
I'm a Phd, not a medical doctor, but your point about them not caring how a covid patient dies is very true, so if someone were to be able to sneak ivermection and other supplements in to administer to their loved one, sounds like it is low risk to the person doing the sneaking, and a great survival boost to the patient.
I have also been told that inhaled budesonide is the best steroid for this process, though dexamethazone works ok.