I am not sure if that is exactly it. It is more like Satan saying God knew exactly what He was doing. God did not give us everything we need to take our minds and bodies to the next level.
Now through science and wisdom we can convert our minds and bodies and Build back better.
This aligns well with my view. Though the reason for the 'deficiency' isn't exactly a direct action, rather just the nature of reality. The way I see it; Heaven is analogous to a latex ball, inside of which is an unlimited energy source and consciousness, God. All of existence 'outside' of heaven is a temporary bubble, expanding out (like a hemorrhoid), but remaining intact/tethered to eventually collapse back. [Tear-drop shape creating 'bottleneck' connection back to the source. The farther the bubble attempts to extend(fall), the tighter the bottleneck and greater the deficiency.]
This particular bubble (Earth/MilkyWay) has been manipulated to remain distended and house the being/energy known as satan via his own will...he may have forgotten who's will established this prison, but it was self-punishment, at least at first. He couldn't handle the isolation, nor could he forgive himself and return, so naturally he turned to luring/trapping souls to join him in his Hell.
Everyone else here either joined him through ungrounded/twisted empathy ('fell' with him) or is part of the rescue crew (most of which 'fell' as well to some extent.)...It's true that the massive majority of people on the planet are 'Good', but as you know, the great awakening was and still is required for many to remember which 'side' they are actually on. [Everyone's on God's side, some just don't know it yet.] NCSWIC because the 'criminal turns himself in' or the 'mental patient checks himself into the asylum'. Think of Satan as the voice and his minions/evil souls as echoes. There might be a delay, but once the voice changes the echo has no choice but to follow suit.
It's much more complex that that, but that analogy is about as best I can put it in words. I don't expect a response, and this isn't super aimed at you, your comment just sparked me to finally share my 'heretical' perspective on it all.
Cheers.
No problem at all. I am sure most church people would not agree with me. It does not matter. I was called to walk with God. I was not called to "follow" a church.
I believe that God created Hell as a mercy to those who refuse to accept the truth.
They cannot be in heaven not because God will not accept them but because they cannot accept forgiveness.
Without what we call hell they would have no place to exist.
I do not believe that hell is "fire and brimstone with the devil poking everyone with his pitchfork.
Hell is a place where the truth is rejected. It is a place of no hope because the souls there refuse to accept the truth. They live in pride but pride is worthless. Pride blocks the truth.
I will go so far as to say that I believe that God will not leave or forsake us even if we are in hell.
We have free will and that is a mighty gift.
It also carries a massive reasonability. We are called to walk with God because that is were we will find truth and life. That is were we find who we really are.
The Love that is God is beyond understanding.
God spoke to me long ago with one verse that changed everything for me. It was like he was saying to me..."let me show you how I see you when you look at me"
Song of Solomon 4:9
You have stolen my heart my sister my bride, you have stolen my heart with one glance of your eyes..
In a sense God had a need (can't think of a better word right now). He had a need to love He created us so that He would fill that need. He gave us free will so that we could freely choose to love Him.
God knows who we are. He knows our struggles. Knowing all that and more, He rejoices when we just look his way.
God is Spirit, those who worship must worship in spirit and truth.
That is what love your neighbor is all about.
Bravo! Everything ringing true to my ear, so to say. Same picture through a different lens, and I've worn a similar lens before.
It will certainly all become clearer in time. I'm finding it hard to deny we're all on converging paths at this point (bubble deflating/receding back into the whole). Seemingly converging towards Truth.
The rubber hernia analogy can kind of explain black holes and singularities too LMAO. The bottleneck area is the black hole that everything in the bubble is inevitably converging towards, just the twist that the singularity unveils Heaven(everything that wasn't in the bubble, which is relatively infinite).
This might be evolving into the theory for everything (tongue-in-cheek)
I am not sure if that is exactly it. It is more like Satan saying God knew exactly what He was doing. God did not give us everything we need to take our minds and bodies to the next level. Now through science and wisdom we can convert our minds and bodies and Build back better.
This aligns well with my view. Though the reason for the 'deficiency' isn't exactly a direct action, rather just the nature of reality. The way I see it; Heaven is analogous to a latex ball, inside of which is an unlimited energy source and consciousness, God. All of existence 'outside' of heaven is a temporary bubble, expanding out (like a hemorrhoid), but remaining intact/tethered to eventually collapse back. [Tear-drop shape creating 'bottleneck' connection back to the source. The farther the bubble attempts to extend(fall), the tighter the bottleneck and greater the deficiency.]
This particular bubble (Earth/MilkyWay) has been manipulated to remain distended and house the being/energy known as satan via his own will...he may have forgotten who's will established this prison, but it was self-punishment, at least at first. He couldn't handle the isolation, nor could he forgive himself and return, so naturally he turned to luring/trapping souls to join him in his Hell.
Everyone else here either joined him through ungrounded/twisted empathy ('fell' with him) or is part of the rescue crew (most of which 'fell' as well to some extent.)...It's true that the massive majority of people on the planet are 'Good', but as you know, the great awakening was and still is required for many to remember which 'side' they are actually on. [Everyone's on God's side, some just don't know it yet.] NCSWIC because the 'criminal turns himself in' or the 'mental patient checks himself into the asylum'. Think of Satan as the voice and his minions/evil souls as echoes. There might be a delay, but once the voice changes the echo has no choice but to follow suit.
It's much more complex that that, but that analogy is about as best I can put it in words. I don't expect a response, and this isn't super aimed at you, your comment just sparked me to finally share my 'heretical' perspective on it all. Cheers.
No problem at all. I am sure most church people would not agree with me. It does not matter. I was called to walk with God. I was not called to "follow" a church.
I believe that God created Hell as a mercy to those who refuse to accept the truth. They cannot be in heaven not because God will not accept them but because they cannot accept forgiveness. Without what we call hell they would have no place to exist.
I do not believe that hell is "fire and brimstone with the devil poking everyone with his pitchfork.
Hell is a place where the truth is rejected. It is a place of no hope because the souls there refuse to accept the truth. They live in pride but pride is worthless. Pride blocks the truth.
I will go so far as to say that I believe that God will not leave or forsake us even if we are in hell.
We have free will and that is a mighty gift. It also carries a massive reasonability. We are called to walk with God because that is were we will find truth and life. That is were we find who we really are.
The Love that is God is beyond understanding.
God spoke to me long ago with one verse that changed everything for me. It was like he was saying to me..."let me show you how I see you when you look at me"
Song of Solomon 4:9 You have stolen my heart my sister my bride, you have stolen my heart with one glance of your eyes..
In a sense God had a need (can't think of a better word right now). He had a need to love He created us so that He would fill that need. He gave us free will so that we could freely choose to love Him.
God knows who we are. He knows our struggles. Knowing all that and more, He rejoices when we just look his way.
God is Spirit, those who worship must worship in spirit and truth. That is what love your neighbor is all about.
I see this as The Great Awakening
Bravo! Everything ringing true to my ear, so to say. Same picture through a different lens, and I've worn a similar lens before.
It will certainly all become clearer in time. I'm finding it hard to deny we're all on converging paths at this point (bubble deflating/receding back into the whole). Seemingly converging towards Truth.
The rubber hernia analogy can kind of explain black holes and singularities too LMAO. The bottleneck area is the black hole that everything in the bubble is inevitably converging towards, just the twist that the singularity unveils Heaven(everything that wasn't in the bubble, which is relatively infinite).
This might be evolving into the theory for everything (tongue-in-cheek)