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Same. I'm Christian without formal religion.
Non-denominational Christian while also engaging with shamanism and utilizing Shaiva Hinduism.
I'm not one one those New Age "Christ Consciousness" or "Christ was just another ascended master" types. I do understand and accept the uniqueness of Christ and the teachings of the gospels, but for me, that is not mutually exclusive to a more encompassing spiritual cosmology.
I think you sum up 90% of the people here. Praise God people like you exist that can articulate so beautifully what everyone else is thinking! That's a God-given talent and He's using you well!
I was New Age too. Makes me depressed because New Age is totally lucifarian in origin. Madam Blavatsky literally had a magazine called Lucifer.
Reading Q drops and going down the Satanic rabbit holes, woke me the fuck up. Made me realize Christ was the Good side. After I discovered all the other ways these Satanists in power, media, entertainment etc have led us astray? Well, I’m a church militant now.
Not sure the New Age crowd is luciferian in origin maybe they got corrupted or maybe there is two factions. Light vs Darkness seems to be a recurring theme everywhere.
The New Age crowd was actually right they were just early.
Yeah, I didn’t want to believe it at first either. Look into Blavatsky. She’s a witch. Makes sense though, the whole law of attraction, you are your own creator stuff? You are your own God essentially. That’s Luciferian. He’s the Light Bringer. Law of attraction is totally bullshit because how can you explain a child dying of cancer? Did the child will that into existence? All the bad things that happen to you are essentially your fault, with Law of Attraction. That’s an abuser/abused mentality. You make the abused think they deserve the bad things happening to them. That ain’t God. He has laws and allowed bad things to happen when Adam and Eve fell, and it’s our duty as his children to still remain devoted to Him, just like Job. But He never wants to hurt his children, that shits the devil, son.
Pretty much my story.
Different but 2015-2016
Except I wasn't religious at all but I did pray now and again in my own way. And I had no idea what i was being involved in. I was pulled into it and i was clueless.
My life is so strange its literally like my life is engineered.
It is mutually exclusive according to Jesus.
When I said "uniqueness" of Christ/Christianity I was implying the Exclusionary Principle of Christianity. That He is the narrow door to true salvation and no one and nothing else is.
I never said salvation was attainable through other means or entities. Just that one can incorporate them into the whole cosmic landscape that includes Jesus without discounting his words and the gospels.
The bible clearly elaborates other aspects of the spiritual world which one can interact with. Various hierarchies of elohim which includes numerous categories of benevolent non-human spiritual beings; form cherubim and seraphim to archangels and the Hosts of Heaven, or the Four Living Creatures who are covered in eyes.
And interfacing with these beings through prayer and altered states is also affirmed by the myriad Old and New Testament examples of prophesy and encounters made during dreams and fasting.
Nothing I said is mutually exclusive with Christ's teachings.
While a spiritual realm exists (the dead, spiritists, etc.), we are not supposed to talk to them or worship them.
We have one Intercessor, one High Priest. The His name is Jesus. He is a jealous God. There is no prayer or spiritual experience outside of Him.
The Bible gives us everything that we need for faith and godliness.
It is mutually exclusive.
If we acknowledge the catholic church has been corrupted and it seems for centuries.....how are you so sure the Bible itself hasn’t been corrupted as well? Who are these monks that copied the Bible through the ages? How hard would it be to change a few lines here and there every edition? Just thinking out loud. The Bible and the church has been used by elites to control peasants forever. I believe there is God and most of the things the Bible teaches is truth but there is a lot of room for corruption.
Now you are just willfully ignoring the things I said while also offering your personal interpretation of scripture (incorrect interpretation I might add).
"There is no prayer or spiritual experience outside of Him."
Loads of prayers are made to Mary and hundreds of saints. That doesn't mean they are put on higher pedestal than Jesus.
And to say there is no such things as spiritual experience (experience of spirits and spiritual nature) that doesn't include Jesus is just so patently absurd and incorrect and only shows you've probably never had a spiritual experience or connected to spiritual nature.
"The Bible gives us everything that we need for faith and godliness."
That's sad if you are limited to only the book and not the universe of spiritual understanding and knowledge that lies within and without that Jesus refers to. There was no book for the first few centuries and no single agreed upon text for the next thousand years. Are you saying every Christian for the first few centuries had no access to "faith and godliness" and truth?
Honestly your worldview sounds pretty shallow and close-minded and judgmental. Not very Godly.
Angels (the name means "messengers") can speak to us and we can speak to angels and learn from them. There's nothing wrong with that in and of itself. It doesn't remove Jesus from the throne or contradict any of the teachings.
As long as we are shrewd about which spirits, angels, and aspects of nature are benevolent, deceitful, or merely neutral, there's nothing wrong with interacting them, should the opportunity arise.
What is? Be specific.
Salvation, Faith, Godliness, Right Christian Living
And how is any of that "mutually exclusive according to Jesus", with anything I said?