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Well, I'm not sure I can explain it in any other way, except to say you're dealing with "celestial objects" (sun/moon) and not "terrestrial objects" (boats). Refraction and atmospheric lensing are the explanations, but I don't think these matter whether globe or flat in my estimation. Globers and FE'ers alike agree with this explanation.
It's worth noting, while nobody is 100% sure, many believe that the sun and moon are not "objects" per se (ball of gas or ball of rock), but instead, projections of light coming from a source beyond our awareness. So if this in fact the case, it may help with resolving your conundrum.
I'll tell you what flipped me, and that was the idea that the "atmosphere" is somehow "glued to" terra firma, and is also spinning 700-1000 MPH like the earth itself, making it entirely unnoticeable to us. And the "official explanation" for this is to say, "it's just like you're sitting on an airplane going 500 MPH having a drink". Except that explanation is pure bunk as that describes an artificial, closed-system inside the plane. If you were sitting out on the wing of the plane, things would be just a tad bit different, eh?
That would be an "open system", just like us standing on the earth in an "open system". There's no wind, or clouds rushing by at 700+ MPH --- ever. Case closed for me.
If you agree, you'll then have to explain why flying from NY to LA should take less than two hours, as the earth is spinning 800 MPH towards you in addition to you flying at 500+ MPH in the other direction, which nets out to 1300 MPH. And that it would be utterly impossible to fly from LA to NY unless you had a plane that could fly faster than the earth's rotation - 800 MPH+. You can use the same logic if you assume you just need to rise up in a hot air balloon and wait for about 3 hours, LA should have rotated right under you essentially to your original position over NY (I realize they're not on the same latitude as LA is further south, but you get the idea).
Any way you slice it, it doesn't add up.
I hope that helped you a bit regardless of the perfect answer. I do believe the sun and moon are self-luminous "lights", not "objects", for the record.
Actually, I'm really glad you brought up flights, as that is another thing that doesn't really make sense to me in a flat earth model.
For example, on a flight from south america to australia, you fly over the ocean the entire time. However, the flight only takes about 20 hours. How is that possible on the flat earth (as on the map on the UN seal, that you recommend I use for reference)
Well, it's interesting that when we try: Beunos Aires to Perth?
No Direct Routes Found... and all available flights are northeast.
But yet, Buenos Aires to Sydney or Melbourne does work on an FE map. Have a look at an FE map for yourself. These flights would be 100% over the ocean. But not Perth.
It's the same deal if you try from Rio De Janiero Brazil to Perth. No direct routes.
See for yourself. https://www.flightconnections.com/flights-from-buenos-aires-aep
Here's a great video that just came out the other day demonstrating how and why certain flights work and don't work due to the globe deception.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L8gGrvMJrss&t=714s
There are direct routes from Santiago Chile to Sydney, and some with a layover in Auckland, which also would make very little sense on a flat earth.
Beyond just the fact that the flights are over the ocean though, these flights are mapped out at only taking 19 hours, a feat completely impossible with today's aircraft on a flat earth model.
Santiago and Buenos Aires are the same difference. Neither city connects with Perth, where the flight WOULD have to go over land. Look at the flight map routes and how they loop south for no apparent reason. Why not a straight line? It's because they're arcing around North America (Mexico especially).
The flight time dilemma has been explained many times in that the actual height and speed of the plane are not being honestly or accurately reported. There are allegedly winds that can be caught at higher and higher altitudes that shorten the time it takes to make that trip.
Anyway, that's some pretty esoteric stuff that can't be confirmed one way or the other.
There was an arrogant pilot that offered to fly these routes if the flat earth contingent would come up with about $25K to pay for the flight. He put his offer out on YouTube attempting to end the debate. The only problem was, he didn't expect the flat-earthers to whip the cash together and take him up on his offer. The arrogant pilot privately rescinded his offer shortly thereafter.
All this to say, the burden of proof is really on the globers who make the claims that they do. Unfortunately for them, they can't prove their claims, because they're all based on theories (gravity, big bang, special relativity, general relativity, and on and on). The flat earth side of the equation doesn't have the answers for everything as we don't have a $53 Million dollar a day budget like NASA. We could answer a lot more questions if we had those kinds of funds (stolen from the American people I might add).
Maxim of Law: He who makes the claim bears the burden of proof. Sadly, we can't find any proof of the globe outside of NASA lies and mathematical equations based on faulty assumptions.
Why would you give THEM the benefit of the doubt? If you're here on GA, your trust in all things government and authoritative must be at an all time low. Don't you think it's possible they're deceiving us about this too?
I guess what I'm trying to say is, one obscure flight route hardly tips the scales. Did you watch the video about the other 10 flight routes and why they fly the way they do? No comment on those?
Ask yourself this: Why are there many hundred flight routes that start and end in the northern hemisphere that NEVER connect to a city in the southern hemisphere? But on the flip side, there are hundreds of southern flight routes, the majority of which that go between continents have connections in the northern hemisphere.
The globers answer to that is; "More people live in the northern hemisphere so there's more money in it for the airlines to have layovers there".
That's the official explanation for this anomaly, which completely ignores the time, expense, fuel costs and wear and tear on the plane to fly these extra thousands of miles into and out of the northern hemisphere instead of simply flying the shortest distance between two points with their southern hemisphere passengers.
Do you buy it?