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what if I believe in Christ and everything else too?
Then, you don't believe Christ.
As it relates to Salvation and Faith, there is no truth outside of Jesus and the Bible.
I think you're heading to the good place !
You are a good person,
If so, then why did Jesus have to die on the Cross?
Put you faith and trust in jesus alone.
Idolatry.
If you're trusting in your own works like prayers, wearing crosses, etc. then you're going to Hell. Nothing we do can impress God or fix our sin problem.
The only righteousness good enough to pass His perfect judgment is His own, which He gave to us through the blood of Jesus Christ. Gotta trust in the blood and nothing else. We're to rest in His finished work. His last words on the cross were "It is finished!", meaning the work is complete. We can't add to it. We're evil, we can't do good in God's eyes. Read Romans 3 if you don't believe it - I thought I was a good person until Romans 3 told me God doesn't think any person is good. But trusting in the blood of Jesus alone gives so much more peace than stepping into eternity hoping you did good enough...
Stop striving to be. You'll never make it. God promises you'll never impress him or be righteous enough. The Bible compares our righteousness as dirty rags, a menstrual cloth. It disgusts God.
You can't trust in a baptism, you can't trust in your ability to stop sinning, you can't make yourself "clean" to approach Him, none of that. Trust completely in the blood and that God raised His Son from the dead, defeating death, and nothing else.
You'll get born again, God's Holy Spirit will live inside of you, and His Spirit being in you will cause your mind and life to become more like him. He did the work to justify us 2000 years ago, but he does the work to clean up our lives AFTER we trust fully in the blood via the Holy Spirit.
Why would you not agree with flat earth? Your whole life you've been indoctrinated into BELIEVING in a GLOBE EARTH, but outside of NASA CGI and photoshop images and some blatantly false mathematical equations, there is not a single proof of the GLOBE.
The bible tells you about the firmament and the waters, just as today's flat earthers maintain.
Your entire life your senses and experiences have shown you that the earth is a stationary, non-rotating plane. Occam's Razor my friend. It's beyond obvious!
Like you, and 99.99% of the population, I was once a glober too. Just like all the "conspiracy facts" that have been discussed on GA, or "anti-vaxxers", or pick your topic of interest that the majority believe is the stuff of tin-foil-hats, flat earth is no different. Once you do your own research, you'll be simultaneously astonished and embarrassed that you ever believed the globe lie. It's beyond conclusive. There's exactly ZERO PROOF of the globe.
If you're a pro-vaxxer, give it 10-20 hours of solid research and you'll never get near that useless poison again. As is often said, there are a lot of anti-vaxxers that were once pro-vaxxers, but there are exactly ZERO pro-vaxxers that were once anti-vaxxers.
So you tell me, what's the #1 item/subject that makes you believe you're living on a globe?
I'm sure flat earthers have an explanation but I've been at sea on a big ship and watched a smaller, faster vessel sink below the horizon. As in the mast of the smaller ship got shorter and shorter until in disappeared. Almost like it went over the edge of a curved surface. Kinda interested in what the explanation for that could be.
I don't know about others here, but if I can speak for myself it's less that I don't agree with the concept, but more that I'm not willing to commit to any model 100%.
I fully believe that we have been lied to about many of the cornerstones of our reality, and I do believe that we are being misled about our planet in a massive way. A flat earth is pretty low on my list of possibilities, but it's still on the list.
It seems foolish to me to lean into any belief 100% with no room for error. I've had to learn to analyze my beliefs based on a spectrum of evidence ranked by quality of said evidence.
In my current reality, with my current understanding of physics and mathematics, my scale is tilting more in favor of a round Earth than a flat earth, maybe 95/5 respectively. I'm still leaving room for the entirety of our matrix to be a construct designed to separate us from the reality of our surroundings, but until that point begins to crystallize, a flat earth doesn't seem like the most likely model.
A hollow earth, on the other hand, is something that intrigues me. I still haven't seen enough evidence to subscribe to that model, but I'm probably closer to a 65/35 current model/hollow earth model vs the 95/5 round earth model/flat earth model.
I'm sure we'll all be appropriately humbled once the verifiable truth is widely known, and the best I can do for now is realize that much of my foundational knowledge has the potential to have been a lie, and begin to reassess my knowledge using the spectrum model I mentioned above. ¯_(ツ)_/¯
Good for you, that's a good place to be. For the record, we don't necessarily claim that it's "flat" per se, but rather, that we're DEFINITELY NOT standing on a spinning ball going 1000 MPH, while simultaneously circling around the sun at 66,000 MPH, while simultaneously circling the Milky Way galaxy at 500,000 MPH, while simultaneously rocketing through the universe at 3-4Million MPH following the initial explosion of the Big Bang moment. All of these claims are verifiable ludicrous and utterly impossible.
Take your time and do your research when you feel inspired. You'll find the physics don't work, and within every mathematical equation you think is irrefutable, you'll find an ASSUMPTION has been made about something to "make it work". Like the ASSUMPTION that Venus is roughly the same size as Earth. Our astrophysicists did just this to calculate the size of the sun and our distance form it. But who's to say that Venus isn't the size of a basketball? Nobody has been there, therefore, nobody knows.
And agreed, it's a most humbling experience when you finally realize how badly you've been duped. Both embarrassing and funny simultaneously when you come to realize how UTTERLY RIDICULOUS the globe model really is.
Good luck!
P.S. Add to the above, that "gravity" doesn't exist --- as a "force" that is. The "effect" is obvious and real, but the "cause" has never been identified, even to this day. Physicists literally have ZERO IDEA as to what gravity is. A particle? A field? A wave? Crickets. Why? Because there's no such FORCE known as "gravity". This alone utterly destroys the globe model. Keep in mind, the astrophysicists had to INVENT "dark matter" and "dark energy", comprising 95% of all the "stuff" that makes up the "universe" to keep the globe/gravity lie alive. Gravity is nothing but a theory. Dark energy is nothing but a theory. Dark matter is nothing but a theory. Take away the theories, and the truth becomes self-evident!
You know there are weather satellites that provide live feeds and clearly show the earth has a curve?
You mean hot air balloons? Those "satellites" and the "ISS" that you think are hundreds of miles above earth are all CGI (Computer Generated Images). Go watch one for yourself for a few hours and decide for yourself whether you're seeing something real or not. Continents, oceans, clouds, bodies of water, etc.
Ever wonder why NASA is the biggest buyer of helium in the world? By like a factor of 10,000x more than the next closest buyer. As yourself why NASA needs so much helium?
If the live feed you're looking at is lower in the sky, which it often is, take a step back and compare it to when you've been in an airplane up at 35,000 feet. If the objects you see aren't appreciably smaller/lower than something you've seen for yourself, then you're seeing a view from a hot-air balloon through a fish-eye lens camera which distorts the image and adds the "curve" - just as airplane windows do.
NASA's job, like all the other "government 3/4/5 letter agencies", is to deceive us - beginning to end.
Does flat earth theory have an explanation for the sun rising and setting? Also, if there is an explanation, does it explain why the sun/moon look larger when they are close to the horizon?
Shape of the earth is 100% the last thing any of us should be worried about. Use logic, It's round. But honestly who cares. It's not a topic that even should be a discussion as there are way more relevant issues to discuss.
Like you're more special than you realize, not a random occurrence out of chaos, and at the center of the universe should matter quite a lot to you. This is a fundamental deception the controllers have leveled against all of us.
Flat earth makes no sense to me. There are things that are experienced daily on this earth that cannot be explained in a flat earth model.
For example?
Example. Here is one. Now I want to actually see a definitive explanation for this. This is a loaded question because you wont be able to explain this accurately but I will propose my questions for laughs and fun none the less. As a flat earther that has done that "research", which is you-tube videos and crayon graphs and little write ups demonstrating absolute PROOF. Flat earther come one come all. Describe and explain the mathematical, completely calculated and verifiable process for over 525,000 years and more the premise and existence of spherical and earth bound process related to our "planet" which is PRECESSION. Btw im not giving any more hints other than precession alone destroys any credible idea thought theory or rationale of the ridiculous ideas presented in flat earth "theory", I doubt you flat earthers even understand what precession actually is but benefit of the doubt. LETS hear it! GO. Oh and link a you-tube video or and say watch this or some 2001 graphic website page telling me go read this and is some regurgitated folklore isnt going to cut it. GIVE me the answers I am Mulder and want to believe!
Also in order for this to be explained adequately one must resolve or explain away the accurate ability to measure spacial distance radially and astronomical / cosmological distance that undulate seasonly by simple triangulation and Parallax formulae for precise calcuations.
gather that tribal knowledge, old wives tales, trickled down internet mind blowing proofs and tell me HOW precession is described and explained away in a FLAT EARTH condition of physicality. Give me themzzzz sciences!
I have spoken to my brother in China before, as well as coworkers in Japan, on video chat. While it is night time where I am, it's light out for them. How is this explained by the flat earth?