I think what we’re debating is not whether “virus/viral particle” are real.
Yes, that is exactly what we are debating: whether or not viruses are real.
I am saying that the particles that virologists see in an electron microscope are NOT what they claim to be. They are nothing more than artifacts of dead cells. Those dead cells were caused by the process the virologist used to look at them in the first place.
Those particles (i.e. "the virus") did NOT EXIST in the body before the virologist went through the steps in the lab. Watch the video I posted above.
But whether they are naturally occurring or man made.
Viruses do not exist in the human (or any other animal's) body. They are figments of the virologist's imagination, and are created by the virologist in the lab, when posioning the cells of the thing they are studying.
I can buy that virus are all man made engineered poisons given to us via vax or food or whatever delivery mechanism.
It is possible that bioweapons are engineered in labs, and they are called viruses. But those things have to be injected into a person in order to make them sick. Maybe they are also working on aerosol versions, but according to many who are discussing this, it has to be injected into the blood, in order to bypass any natural pathway that would be used by nature (breathing in, for example), because the human body will kill it in that case.
It’s literally just genetic code injected into another cell.
There is NO genetic code found in SARS-CoV-2. The so-called "genetic sequence" used for the "test" to determine if someone has it was made in a computer program. It was NEVER taken from a sample of the "virus" because there is NO sample of the virus -- anywhere in the world. You cannot take a genetic code from something if you don't have a sample of it in the first place.
Virus can’t really survive on their own. They always need a host cell to “hijack”.
You can't prove that. It is pure speculation, and no virologist has ever proven it.
It also cannot be true. Because the narrative is that one person has the virus, sneezes, it floats out into the air, hangs around, and then someone else breaths it in, and it causes them to get sick.
If they"can't really survive on their own," then how do they go from one person to another? They can't. So, this unproven narrative is pure speculation, and cannot be true.
It scares the shit out of people, though. And that is probably the purpose of this narrative.
They always need a host cell to “hijack”.
Again, more speculation. Nobody has EVER proven that -- for ANY virus.
I guess what rubs me the wrong way is when people say there is no “virus” is it implies people aren’t getting sick or that the disease isn’t real.
This is not a valid way of looking at it. I understand. Before I looked into this, I would have agreed with you. But that is because this thinking is mistaken.
There is (a) the "virus" and then, there is (b) the sickness (which is claimed to be caused by the virus).
The sickness of measles is claimed to be caused by a virus, which is conveniently called the "measles virus." Polio is a sickness, which is claimed to be caused by a virus, which is conveniently called the "polio virus." Covid-19 is a sickness, which is claimed to be caused by a virus called SARS-CoV-2.
These are TWO DIFFERENT THINGS. There is (a) the virus, and then there is (b) the sickness.
I am NOT saying that people do not get sick. They do. I've been sick -- more than once, with something claimed to be caused by a virus (colds, flu, chicken pox, etc.).
But that does NOT mean these sicknesses are caused by viruses. If viruses do not exist, then it follows that these sicknesses are caused by SOMETHING ELSE.
Nobody is studying what the something else might be. Nobody is studying this because they all buy into the idea that it is all caused by viruses, so there is no reason to study anything else.
That is the big mistake.
The people debunking virology say that these illnesses are caused by malnutrition and/or external environmental poisons and/or natural detoxification processes in the body. The sicknesses are real, but they are not caused by imaginary viruses.
Maybe they are also working on aerosol versions, but according to many who are discussing this, it has to be injected into the blood, in order to bypass any natural pathway that would be used by nature (breathing in, for example), because the human body will kill it in that case.
I’ll refrain from using the word “virus” bc I feel at this point the word itself is a distraction from the main point which is evil people are creating some shit to kill other people. Whether you want to call it a virus , a bio weapon, a vax doenst really matter. Point is it’s something man made that is killing people. The environmental and nutrition piece is important bc it makes the host susceptible.
Edit: sorry wasn’t done with replying to all your other points but accidentally published reply. I’ll continue with some more points later bc you raised som good issues that I’d like to discuss.
Yes, that is exactly what we are debating: whether or not viruses are real.
I am saying that the particles that virologists see in an electron microscope are NOT what they claim to be. They are nothing more than artifacts of dead cells. Those dead cells were caused by the process the virologist used to look at them in the first place.
Those particles (i.e. "the virus") did NOT EXIST in the body before the virologist went through the steps in the lab. Watch the video I posted above.
Viruses do not exist in the human (or any other animal's) body. They are figments of the virologist's imagination, and are created by the virologist in the lab, when posioning the cells of the thing they are studying.
It is possible that bioweapons are engineered in labs, and they are called viruses. But those things have to be injected into a person in order to make them sick. Maybe they are also working on aerosol versions, but according to many who are discussing this, it has to be injected into the blood, in order to bypass any natural pathway that would be used by nature (breathing in, for example), because the human body will kill it in that case.
There is NO genetic code found in SARS-CoV-2. The so-called "genetic sequence" used for the "test" to determine if someone has it was made in a computer program. It was NEVER taken from a sample of the "virus" because there is NO sample of the virus -- anywhere in the world. You cannot take a genetic code from something if you don't have a sample of it in the first place.
You can't prove that. It is pure speculation, and no virologist has ever proven it.
It also cannot be true. Because the narrative is that one person has the virus, sneezes, it floats out into the air, hangs around, and then someone else breaths it in, and it causes them to get sick.
If they"can't really survive on their own," then how do they go from one person to another? They can't. So, this unproven narrative is pure speculation, and cannot be true.
It scares the shit out of people, though. And that is probably the purpose of this narrative.
Again, more speculation. Nobody has EVER proven that -- for ANY virus.
This is not a valid way of looking at it. I understand. Before I looked into this, I would have agreed with you. But that is because this thinking is mistaken.
There is (a) the "virus" and then, there is (b) the sickness (which is claimed to be caused by the virus).
The sickness of measles is claimed to be caused by a virus, which is conveniently called the "measles virus." Polio is a sickness, which is claimed to be caused by a virus, which is conveniently called the "polio virus." Covid-19 is a sickness, which is claimed to be caused by a virus called SARS-CoV-2.
These are TWO DIFFERENT THINGS. There is (a) the virus, and then there is (b) the sickness.
I am NOT saying that people do not get sick. They do. I've been sick -- more than once, with something claimed to be caused by a virus (colds, flu, chicken pox, etc.).
But that does NOT mean these sicknesses are caused by viruses. If viruses do not exist, then it follows that these sicknesses are caused by SOMETHING ELSE.
Nobody is studying what the something else might be. Nobody is studying this because they all buy into the idea that it is all caused by viruses, so there is no reason to study anything else.
That is the big mistake.
The people debunking virology say that these illnesses are caused by malnutrition and/or external environmental poisons and/or natural detoxification processes in the body. The sicknesses are real, but they are not caused by imaginary viruses.
Again, watch the video:
https://odysee.com/@lancewdetrick:b/IA---Germ-Theory-is-nonsense---no-virus-has-ever-caused-disease---Dr-Tom-Cowan---Jerm-Warfare:9
I’ll refrain from using the word “virus” bc I feel at this point the word itself is a distraction from the main point which is evil people are creating some shit to kill other people. Whether you want to call it a virus , a bio weapon, a vax doenst really matter. Point is it’s something man made that is killing people. The environmental and nutrition piece is important bc it makes the host susceptible.
Edit: sorry wasn’t done with replying to all your other points but accidentally published reply. I’ll continue with some more points later bc you raised som good issues that I’d like to discuss.