I understand the Roman Catholic position and I VEHEMENTLY DISAGREE with it.
You say veneration is not worship. I say you're playing word games.
You say kneeling in front of a statue of the Virgin Mary and placing a crown of roses on its head while singing Ave Maria is merely veneration. I say it's idolatry and the statue is a graven image.
You say that even though the Roman Catholic Church refers to the Virgin Mary as the Queen of Heaven, the co-redemptrix, mediatrix and advocate, just as the ancient Babylonians did, there's nothing wrong with this and the two aren't related. And then you take it a step further and claim I don't know what co-redemptrix really means, when the definition is irrelevant to the fact it's a shared title. I say you're the one who's willfully ignorant at this point.
So Babylonians were not worshipping Mary. They were worshipping a particular deity which requires human sacrifice as worship.
Catholics do not worship Ishtar. Or Mary. Catholics accept the definition of worship that is what was forbidden Ishtar: sacrifice of any kind. That is the definition of worship. Praise is not worship. Praise and verbal communication is not worship. Praise can be part of worship but is not worship by itself. Singing about Mary, an actual woman who conceived the Son of God Incarnate, honoring her, is not worship since worship is sacrifice. This is what you are choosing to be incapable of understanding, to your own detriment and to the detriment of your ability to reason.
Ishtar is not Mary. Mary is not worshipped by Catholics. If you refuse to not accept that different words have different meanings, you have chosen stupidity and I cannot help you understand.
I understand the Roman Catholics have a definition of words based on their traditions, and those definitions differ from the Biblical definitions.
You call it veneration when you sing a hymn to a statue and crown it with roses. The Bible calls it idolatry and calls the statue a graven image.
And when Mary has the same 8-pointed star as Ishtar does in Roman Catholic paintings and statues, you have no explanation of what that star represents other than the goddess Ishtar.
I understand the Roman Catholic position and I VEHEMENTLY DISAGREE with it.
You say veneration is not worship. I say you're playing word games.
You say kneeling in front of a statue of the Virgin Mary and placing a crown of roses on its head while singing Ave Maria is merely veneration. I say it's idolatry and the statue is a graven image.
You say that even though the Roman Catholic Church refers to the Virgin Mary as the Queen of Heaven, the co-redemptrix, mediatrix and advocate, just as the ancient Babylonians did, there's nothing wrong with this and the two aren't related. And then you take it a step further and claim I don't know what co-redemptrix really means, when the definition is irrelevant to the fact it's a shared title. I say you're the one who's willfully ignorant at this point.
“Just as the babylonians did”
When did the babylonians refer to Mary? I was under the impression hat she wasn’t born until a millennia or so later.
Ishtar. Now you're arguing semantics. I've already covered this in another post on this thread...
No, Mary wasn’t born yet.
So Babylonians were not worshipping Mary. They were worshipping a particular deity which requires human sacrifice as worship.
Catholics do not worship Ishtar. Or Mary. Catholics accept the definition of worship that is what was forbidden Ishtar: sacrifice of any kind. That is the definition of worship. Praise is not worship. Praise and verbal communication is not worship. Praise can be part of worship but is not worship by itself. Singing about Mary, an actual woman who conceived the Son of God Incarnate, honoring her, is not worship since worship is sacrifice. This is what you are choosing to be incapable of understanding, to your own detriment and to the detriment of your ability to reason.
Ishtar is not Mary. Mary is not worshipped by Catholics. If you refuse to not accept that different words have different meanings, you have chosen stupidity and I cannot help you understand.
I understand the Roman Catholics have a definition of words based on their traditions, and those definitions differ from the Biblical definitions.
You call it veneration when you sing a hymn to a statue and crown it with roses. The Bible calls it idolatry and calls the statue a graven image.
And when Mary has the same 8-pointed star as Ishtar does in Roman Catholic paintings and statues, you have no explanation of what that star represents other than the goddess Ishtar.