Lol exactly. It's a joke. Old school engineers are a special breed of intelligent humans. A coworker of my dad was the head of the engineering dept at the local university and he's definitely old school. Great dude! And honestly where I was at the engineering department was so saturated that it was hard to stand out unless you were a 4.0gpa student in 3 clubs and an extra curricular sport club. Fair to say I didn't make it to the end... But I'm much happier and less in debt because of it!