Lately been seeing posts about folks who've done everything right and still have bad covid.
Before going to the hospital, this therapy is worth a try. Difficulty breathing is very scary, and once it starts with Covid, it can worsen rapidly.
This happened to me. I was already on the recommended vitamins, and I was in a bad state, no knowledge of ivermectin at the time, and for me it felt like my choices were this nebulizer therapy, death, or the hospital. (Yes, I had a major comorbidity: type 1 diabetes. Otherwise healthy and active, my breathing had become increasingly difficult and was a few days past the worrying stage.
Fortunately the nebulizer therapy worked quickly. Everything is OTC, way faster than getting a prescription or an appointment, and very inexpensive, with the exception of the nebulizer, $40-100. (Obviously nothing compared to any hospital cost.) All usually available in one trip to a pharmacy.
It quickly calmed my breathing, and I felt a little better immediately, and much better overnight. I continued for weeks, not out of any discipline or respect for medicine, but because it was so obviously helpful. It is worth a try.
When covid is bad, it can sneak up on people. Both articles are good. After reading I think you'll agree there is a big upside compared to almost no downside.
Here is the protocol: https://www.spiritofchange.org/nebulized-peroxide-a-simple-remedy-for-covid-19/ Archived: https://archive.md/SvEEm
2nd article. https://deeprootsathome.com/dr-mercola-nebulized-peroxide-the-single-most-effective-early-strategy/ Archived: https://archive.md/snzF5
By all means, do the vitamins, NAC, IVM or HCQ, I'm not opposed to any of those things. But don't ignore breathing issues especially if they seem to get progressively worse, and keep this in mind. These articles mention more than one formula- if you're skittish, just start with the most diluted; your body will tell you if it helps and you can priced from there. Pro tip in comment about making nebulizing even easier.
T1D here too.
Have you used Zinc with Quinine/HQC/Ivermectin yet?
Using more than the suggested dose of Quinine or Ivermectin with far more than the recommended dose of Zinc for a couple days drops my insulin needs drastically for over a week. I wouldn't try it without a CGM (Dexcom is mine).
It has been insane for me. Every time I do it, I use at least 30% less insulin for almost a week. Crazy side effect of COVID stuff. Granted it might be helping since I am overweight & may have some type 2 tendencies as well.
Just wanted to know if any other T1D are seeing some interesting stuff.
During this episode, beginning April 2020, my sugar was off the charts, literally. At random times it exceeded 400 and 500, and I couldn't bring it down, I wasn't reacting normally to insulin or to food, it was wild and scary. I later read some scientific explanations of how covid shuts down organs, and I think that's what was happening at the time. Obviously I got better. I tried HCL and woke up with a racing, pounding heart for two nights, so I stopped. Also, at that time I had extensive clotting. I use an omnipod pump, and I had multiple failures where I replaced it early, and one day my blood was positively black and gooey, which really freaked me out. I've used dexcom before, but was back to finger-pricks. But that was then, and now I'm back to normal.
Thanks for commenting about the effects of IVM. I have since experimented with ivermectin, and also fenbendazole. Like you, I also noticed that both of them reduce my insulin needs, and give me lows at night if I'm not careful, but it seems to wane. I am intrigued, and just recently finished a few tubes using the weight guidelines. I looked up other anti-parasite drugs, and think mebendazole is a promising candidate. Turns out they took it off the shelves in the US to be replaced by a newer drug, but everywhere they do sell it, it comes with a "warning label" that it reduces the insulin requirement for diabetics! That sounds like a great feature to me, so after searching the safety (very safe), I searched "mebendazole" and "mellitus" and only found two studies, but both observed the insulin-reducing effect. One even had a person (young, recently diagnosed) who apparently cured it after a month! The study only followed him for 6 months, but he went off insulin entirely. So I'm going to order some 100mg tablets from Mexico to see what it does.
For the record, I think Dr. Faustman has found the cause and the cure. Her paper in March 2020, only 3 pages long, lays it out clearly. Would've been top news if not for covid. Reading between the lines, it's the lack of exposure to natural tuberculosis bacteria when young, leaving us susceptible to T1. The exposure primes the immune system in such a way that it prevents tuberculosis disease and T1 diabetes. Different vaccines are less effective substitutes for the same exposure. She lays it all out very clearly. Just google "Faustman lab" and you can see her recent papers. Only problem is it's only phase 2 studies for now. That, plus the treatment needs 3.5 years (i.e., one shot but it takes that long to work). So I'll try the mebendazole in the meantime.
Thank you! I have been looking for info an real reasons that this disease occurs. There is so much information & just have not found a common denominator.
Seems like anti paracitics is a good first step to explore.
I have never heard of mebendazole, thank you for that research. I will look further into it too.
There is a chiropractor in FL who claims they have cured T1D in multiple patients. I need to get their information again. My baby bro acquired T1D & their youngest son picked it up too recently. He has gone to speak with this guy & had my nephew treated. They are still working on it, though there was a wealth of information that my brother picked up about potential root causes & common denominators for diabetics.
Thank you for the Faustman lab link. I will check into that as well. Once I chat up my brother again I will come back & reply to you with additional info from his conversation. I was at a pool party for my son the day he was talking about it & didn't get any notes to recall specifics.
Edit-Just read an article about Fausman. That is some incredibly interesting stuff.
Faustman Lab is the real deal. But she doesn't identify the immediate trigger for the disease, just the mechanics of why the body succumbs, and how the body gets that way. But if you separately search for type 1 diabetes and clusters, you'll find interesting articles about outbreaks of t1, which defies the whole genetic/immunocompromised angle. I only found the mebendazole thing recently. I've had t1 for 30 years and always been following the potential cures. Let me know about the chiropractic treatment when you learn.
I read an article about her research, it was really great.
Here is a link to a LONG vid from Dr. Lonnie Herman. I will respond after chatting with my brother. I have rabbit holed for too long today LoL I would love to dig more.
https://youtu.be/zK8E5MMW9_o
I have not tried this. I'm only on 200mg of zinc and vitamin c w 2000iu vitamin d daily as a best practice type thing. Have not taken IVM yet (neigh!) nor really explored Quinine AT ALL.
Thank you for the heads up; as we type 1s often note any substantial changes to insulin levels, that's obviously a very interesting observation by you.
Since I've got your ear, care to elaborate on the Quinine dosage / reasoning / etc. Also, I'm pretty sure 200mg of zinc + vitamin c could be "upped?" Supplemental nutrition is definitely a weak point of mine. TIA.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08QVBK2NQ/ref=cm_sw_r_apan_glt_fabc_0KZJJ11YWHGA9SGCQETX is the one I used (went liquid initially since I figured it is likely to absorb better) & picked it up after someone on this forum (or maybe TD on reddit/.win) let me know that HQC was a derived from Quinine. They claimed they worked in a lab & I figured it couldn't hurt to try.
I also use Zinc Maxx by Gannon Med, I have tried other cheaper ones & found that this one just works for me. It is Zinc Gluconate 50mg. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0863NNPH4/ref=cm_sw_r_apan_glt_fabc_1Y4QVF42S7KQY1NFYTSE?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1
I figured the FDA likely limited "suggested dosages" in supplements to a point that they are not effective from what I had seen in other studies related to Vit D & Vit C.
When I got a head cold, I did the suggested quinine dosage 3 times per day (which was three times the amount) & took 300-400mg of Zinc.
I had later discovered that zinc depletes copper & that was causing some post concussion issues to resurface, so I added more copper when I went on high dosages. I also noticed that my skin cleared up starting a few days into treatment at those levels.
At this point, if I get a wound that won't heal up, or start to feel gross I take 300-400mg of Zinc with 2 droppers filled with Quinine & that helps quide a bit by the next morning with cold symptoms & I will keep going it for skin issues until wounds go away, for really stubborn wounds that just won't heal up I take it morning & night (dealing with nasuea in the day for a few hours occassionally. It makes me think I may have a perpetual low zinc issue from cells using it all the time to fight diabetes or something else.
Quinine is an ionophore which as best I understand it works for zinc like insulin works for sugar. It just let's the zinc get into the cells.
Zinc & this Quinine knocks out the crappy cold feeling within 24 hours (usually 12) & then I have normal congestion that clears up much faster. As a T1D these would stay with me for 30%-50% longer than my non diabetic family members, so this has been a game changer for me.
If I use Queceritine instead of Quinine I have not noticed a difference in insulin need, though it does help with enough vitamin C to get that zinc into my system. Also Vitamin C is water soluble, so as I have come to understand it, that goes right through you. I went from 10k daily in a single dose to five to six 2k doses & that seems to do better for my overall health through the day, though that may just be in my head so I believe it, I can't really pinpoint why it feels better.
Also I found in a book from an Indian Dr that all diabetics are vitamin D deficient. Once I paid attention to it, my sugars in the summer (even laying in a hammock with no shirt) dropped significantly. More so with work obviously, but a noted difference in insulin need when I spend 8+ hours in the sun lazily or not. So I take 40k Vitamin D daily too. I can give you the link to that book if you like, it had some interesting info & an experience in my 20s (10 years after being diagnosed) has me convinced we can reverse this thing if we know what we are doing (ie not just a fluke that our insulin needs drop). I didn't really connect those dots until I read this book & realized everything he noted I did during a summer gig on a farm in a small town for an entire summer. It is what has me searching for ways to decrease insulin need (which now I have a few & am excited to look over your info).
Thanks for the conversation. Please feel free to hit me up with any new data or if you are looking for clarification.
Excellent data. Thanks for the wall of text, seriously. I'm always on the go, but I'm legitimately going to print this thread out for reference. I feel it's that important to me. All of the dosage and interaction information is stuff I've seen in different threads here, but never wrapped my head around Having it presented specifically for a t1 is an invaluable cheat sheet for me.
Couple things. Of course I'd like the book title! My much smarter, more nutrition savvy wife has also hinted at me about her suspicion on a "cure", so to speak, in the realm of natural medicine. As I said, I'm printing this out to peruse in depth - it appears you may have dropped the title in another reply. I'll see.
The vitamin d deficiency also anecdotally makes sense for me. Tons of observable data about my relative glucose levels versus time in sun. Easy to measure as I'm in Florida.
The wound care stuff is SUPER interesting as well.
Just a ton here. Got a soup about to boil over, g2g. Enormous sincere thanks to both yourself and u/Mr_A You have to feel like God gave us a test run for this vaccine bullshit, yes?
edit: printed. thanks again.
https://a.co/fJgp7wf
Diabetes Type 1 & 2 Cure in 72 hours is the name of the book.
You are very welcome. Covid has been a God send to me. So much valuable data that helps me with overall wellness & if this exosome (spell check) theory is accurate, it could be diabetes & other illness is caused primarily by lack of nutrition to defend against parasites.
Indont know how much I accept that theory, though the use of anti paracitics & my drop in needed insulin does give me reason to think there could be a connection.
FYI- you mentioned FDA guidelines for vitamins being misleading/worthless. Whenever I want to research anything about vitamins or supplements, I always check the Linus Pauling Institute as a good source. https://lpi.oregonstate.edu/
Thank you! I will need to look into it.