Word NOW on the street with leftists is Ron Watkins is Q - they WERE saying it was Austin Steinbart. What changes?
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They cannot find Q. Anywhere.
No arrest.
No charges.
No subpoena.
No back-trace.
No intelligence of who "Q" actually is.
No (successful) attempt to locate and "bring to justice" someone the Federal Government considers a cult leader.
Why not?
How Government handles an actual threat: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/un-sounds-alarm-over-extrajudicial-killings-in-the-talibans-afghanistan/ar-AAROisN?ocid=uxbndlbing
How Government handles a perceived threat: https://www.cnn.com/2021/11/10/politics/list-january-6-subpoenas/index.html
How Government handles an online troll: https://www.justice.gov/usao-az/pr/defendant-sentenced-online-threats
How Government handles Q: ... "Evil QAnon!!!"
Not just some autistic dweeb on 4chan, is it?
I think “the driving force of Q” is actually fairly complex, and different for different people. GAW is the largest public community of Q people, but certainly not the only one. Independent Facebook networks, work buddies, and church groups all have different ideas of what the Q movement is.
Which, I think, explains the JFK Jr people out in Dallas and other odd beliefs attached to “QAnon.” Without access to GAW, the Q-inspired belief that you can’t trust the media or authority or anything else opens up a lot of possible truths, and some communities apparently found truth that GAW mostly rejects.
I fully recognize that you can’t generalize a set of beliefs to any particular believer in Q. I can only observe popular beliefs. There is always a post here remaking when 17 is in the news. You may find it silly, but not everyone does.
So why do you accept their presence here despite their different perspective? Because they’re fellow researchers looking for the truth about Q. You can forgive some faulty beliefs.
On that basis, I’m not certain that my mere disinclination to believe in Q the way you do makes my research any less viable than anyone else’s.
Whether or not you believe in Q is irrelevant - Q is simply the personification of an assumption ('with some evidence') that there are actually a handful of good people left in Government with the power to actually change things for the better, against all odds. If you don't assume that, fine, I could care less.
I, and most of the other people here - willing to admit it or not - would hold hands with Marxists if it meant eradicating the sick, Fascistic merger of power between Corporatists and the US Government.
If you think there is a problem with Biden throwing shit from Blackrock and other Corporations into his cabinet, then we have common ground. If you think there is a problem with the Covid narrative being used to generate record profits for the Pharmaceutical Industry and control political dialogue across the world that weakens the political power of the people of every nation, then we have common ground.
Every single person in the Q movement believes in holding Democrats and Republicans, who are both corrupt - along with every other "leader" in the world who has enabled Western society to collapse in on itself, accountable. Many of us are more than willing to link hands with whoever else believes that. Is that your "contribution" here, or not?
It seems to me that you think you're engaging in ground-breaking diplomacy with a pack of 'delusional freaks' that could actually be hiding in plain sight on Reddit because the only thing that makes them 'delusional freaks' is their belief in "Q" as a legitimate operation. Suppress that, and what's the difference between us and r/stupidpol? r/libertarian? r/superstonks? "Q" is the only difference.
Based on everything I know about you, you would willingly put someone like Biden in charge of this country if it meant keeping Trump out of power - that makes your perspective dog shit, along with whatever "research" you think you're contributing to us.
If I'm wrong, it means you'd lock Trump, Biden, Hillary, Pelosi, and every other politician in a prison, in favor of maybe a more competent Bernie style outsider who has no intention to dismantle our liberties, strip us till we're defenseless, or cave like a coward to Establishment demands.
I actually appreciate your response. Mine:
I believe that there are people in the government who don't agree with the government, regardless of who is running the government. We saw it with Trump. I'm sure it's also true of Biden. I am not convinced Q is one of those people, and I think if Q wanted anyone to have a Great Awakening, outing himself as someone with credibility to make the claims he makes would do more for the Q movement than any Q post ever could.
We have common ground that neither party is free of corrupt individuals and we want them all held accountable, no matter who it is or what level of power they have.
Where we're going to break off is that I see Donald Trump as someone who very obvious represents that corruption I despite, while you do not. Perhaps it's just a difference in perspective, but I imagine we'd also have differences in what constitutes Western society collapsing.
The only difference between here and Reddit for me is that I am more likely there to say that I believe Q people are wrong about something when I believe they are, and when here, I am more likely to question you directly as to why believe it. I don't hide the fact that I do not support belief in Q, but if I'm here and talking with you about it, then I can at least try to close the gap between our perspectives.
And I am perfectly comfortable being wrong, especially since being wrong about Q costs me absolutely nothing.
I have never called you "delusional freaks" and have often gotten angrygrams from suspicious Reddit users for seeming too friendly toward Q supporters.
I mean, I very obviously don't believe that Trump is a viable choice for President, but I haven't stopped respectful conversation with the people who disagree with me. That's kind of the point. You are making profoundly important choices about your life and worldview based on the things you believe, so regardless of whether I agree with your beliefs, I do think they're important to understand from your perspective.
I suppose that means that you're wrong, then. :) I don't know if I'd go so far as to unilaterally lock people up based on what I read on the internet, but I would absolutely support some sort of divinely-neutral and deep-diving investigation into all those people, and anyone else who serves in public office. Anyone who committed prison-worthy crimes should be there. I'd love to see the whole two-party system take a dive altogether, to be honest.
Likewise. I similarly enjoyed this one.
If I were Q I certainly wouldn't. Whether or not I was a billionaire, a soldier, etc. Q has caused enough damage at this point that whoever it is would make themselves a significant target financially, legally, and physically. If Peter Thiel as an example came out and said he was at least one member of Q Team - what benefit would that achieve for him? Nothing positive. At least, not quickly enough.
Fair.
I wouldn't say I've done anything profoundly important due to my Q beliefs at all. Q never said "don't get the vax," Q actually said the same thing that Trump said, which is that Pharmaceutical Companies manipulate fear to generate revenue. You don't need Q to figure that out - and the vax itself is something I don't get because realistically, I'm in the risk group for Myocarditis. Again, not like Q has ever said anything about not getting the Covid vax. Just that Pharmaceutical Companies should be held accountable for intentionally manipulating our government, lying to us, and releasing garbage for profit too.
Really, none of these Q related choices are profound at all. Nobody knows I follow any of this except like one person whom I trust.
I'm glad when I'm wrong :)
I don't think our current rendition of Capitalism is sustainable, and I don't think that our government diving further and further into the personal lives of its citizens is tolerable. I think everyone of influence in this country should be investigated. Every single one. I'm sure that a lot of people with power aren't entirely bad, but if one has so much as even taken a bribe, it needs to be known.
We need to rebuild our country, we need to rebuild our economic system, and we need to rebuild our sense of unity. If Q magically accomplishes something, great. If not, like I said, I can hold hands with Marxists if need be. I want change, and end to racism by the elites running our society, and to see the tables of false teachers overturned, with those same false teachers driven out of the woodwork of the institutions we hold sacred in this country. It doesn't matter who affects such change - only that the endpoint mirrors what I seek. That might mean a wealth cap, that might mean higher taxes for employers, that might mean temporary struggle for everyone, that might mean redefining what constitutes citizenship which forces people like me to earn it instead of being born with it - I don't really know.
If not Q, something will work. Eventually.
So here is my thought. Let's assume for a minute that you find someone on the internet who is absolutely convinced that the sun is actually the egg of a gigantic telepathic alien who controls all humans on Earth, except for the ones wearing tin foil hats. He says he can prove it, but it requires you, a random passerby to read a ten thousand page manifesto of cryptic statements and then, further, decode those statements and correlate those interpretations to the minute details of real-world events.
Would you agree to read the manifesto of every person making such a claim? Probably not. You don't have time to invest that much effort into the beliefs of everyone who claims to know The Truth.
BUT... what if this crazy random dude proved he was actually a PhD in astronomy with a focus on solar science?
Well... he might still be a nutcase. But if ANYONE can prove the telepathic extraterrestrial fetus theory, it would be this guy, right? So even if I think he's crazy, I'm MUCH more likely to do the deep dive he's asking for. And if I'm doing it, other people might. And if other people do, then you get the snowball effect of people wondering why such a respected dude is saying these crazy things.
Any "Q" with an actual long-view of how people are being manipulated and how to deprogram them would understand this. If someone with credentials took credit for being Q, that would, at the VERY least, force people to at least consider his position.
Because as it stands, nobody on the outside has any reason to trust Q over any other random internet LARPer. Q knows that. Q could change that. If a Great Awakening is going to occur, it's going to require people to care about what Q is saying, and most people don't care about the prophecies of someone even more anonymous than your average Reddit user.
Maybe not you, but I think the average Q user has sacrificed quite a bit for this belief system. People here have lost friends, family, jobs, and some even their freedom for the beliefs that Q either dictated or inspired. It's a lot to ask of someone who doesn't yet have faith that Q is who he claims to be.
Remember, if this was just an anti-pedophile organization, Q would have a much more mainstream following. I'd be on board. People aren't afraid of acknowledging that there are rich people who are criminals, or that the media is biased, or that the elites control everything. That's not where people are divorcing from you. That's not the stuff that people are having a hard time connecting to. Nobody wants that world. They just have no reason to believe that Q, his explanation of these problems, or his promised solution are based in reality.
I don't doubt that.