DEVOLUTION KICKOFF DAY MAGATHREAD- MILITARY PEPEs and all others, comment what you can safely share based on what you observe.
🗣️ DISCUSSION 💬
I haven't even read devolution but hubby has- I hope today really is the day. Kick off is at noon! Update: OR, tomorrow because Devolution says 1 year and 1 day....... so 24 hour maga thread!
LOLOL. Read it dude (maybe start around page 769).
First of all, this is clearly referring to American forces as the occupiers, and says that the one year term is to account for ongoing situations like post-WWII Germany and Japan.
It's about the occupier's obligations to the GC, and is basically instructions for during a wind-down after a military conflict, and while it says that "application of the GC" shall cease on the general close of conflict or in the case of occupation, one year later (because it has cease to at some point), it stipulates several important articles that stay in effect to basically prevent the occupying force (again, Americans) from being bad guys.
It also says that anyone in custody retains their GC protections and that "In addition, it may be appropriate following the end of occupation to continue to apply by analogy certain rules from the law of belligerent occupation, even if such rules do not apply as a matter of law."
So basically it's saying, let's still try to follow these rules here, even if they no longer technically apply.
That this has become twisted into some form of "we'll give you belligerents one year to get out or there will be hell to pay!" is just so stupid. Maybe before you go repeating someone's opinion about legal handwashing and allowance of war crimes, do your own research.
https://rumble.com/vssjn5-ss76-wjuan-o-savin-11.3-first-marker.html
The Law of War Manual gives rules to follow for the “occupying force”. [The occupying force is the force in power after having taken-over a country.] In the case of a covert take-over, the occupying force has one year to declare who they are and their intentions. (They can’t stay a covert force forever.)
Trying to remain in power, covertly, after this very exact one-year-period, is considered a war crime and makes those involved war-criminals. They may already be criminals for some other reason, but this one act, of going past the allowed year without identifying themselves, will label them as war criminals.
https://operationdisclosureofficial.com/2022/01/19/helping-freedom-win-more-on-the-law-of-war-and-juan-o-savin/
Are you even talking about the same thing anymore? Now we will have war criminals who can't wash their hands?
Also, you pointed me to the DoD Law of War Manual. What you just posted here does not appear to be in that manual. Can you point me to something that backs it up?
I watched a bunch of that video and it just seems like some guys randomly speculating on things. They even unironically said they were doing "mental gymnastics" at one point.
FWIW the DoD Law of War Manual is a pretty good read.
https://kibodabi.wordpress.com/2022/01/21/kat-update-www-operationdisclosureofficial-com/
Aha! I see where the confusion lies. Out of context, those paragraphs* could possibly be interpreted as GC rules no longer applying to those wishing to remove occupiers from their own country.
Except that if you actually read those whole sections in the actual DoD Law of War Manual, it is extremely clear that it is providing rules for the occupying force in other countries (in this case, US forces elsewhere), and provides that the GC rules apply to the occupying [US] forces for one year officially, and thereafter, at least partially or unofficially.
But thank you so much for helping me see why people are falling for this nonsense.
* Edit: actually the last sentence quoted there at least hints at all this being interpreted incorrectly as it clearly continues to bind the occupying force to the "following" (but omitted here, of course) GC rules.
* Edit2: Also none of this says anything about covert occupations or anyone having to reveal themselves or their intentions after one year.