Here's something to consider for those of you that are not religious or on the fence.
🗣️ DISCUSSION 💬
Logically either all religions are either false or only ONE is true since they conflict.
If one is true and the world is being run by evil that is lying to us then that true religion would be disproportionally attacked while false ones would be left alone or encouraged.
I can only think of one religion that is attacked above all others.... Christianity.
If it's being attacked / misrepresented by the people trying to enslave / kill me then it must be a threat to them / their plans.
Ergo you should examine Christianity.
Logical Fallacies:
Right from the start you are starting out with a limited premise.
Second limitation is your own imagination:
The question should be posed: who are you that makes you the ultimate and final word of what imagining may do?
The third assumption is that those who do not belief in Christianity at all, are in that position because of lacking knowledge. In certain cases that may be the case. I am not going to generalize that. However, many other people have made a conscious decision after careful investigation. This assumption of yours also is a limitation.
That said, let me address the core item in your view, and that is BECAUSE Christianity is attacked above all other, it MUST be true.
This is quite an amazing view, since truth and falsehood are always in a struggle for supremacy, like dark and light, male and female, yin and yang, etc. It is not an argument giving direction to it, because both may be true. Christianity in and of itself may be a lie, and hence is considered detrimental. Or, it indeed may be considered true, and detrimental to the lie, or it may be deemed somewhat true and somewhat false, and therefore detrimental to spiritual health.
What I am showing you is your position is a "a priori" position. You are moving from the supposition that you are right and Christianity is the absolutely true. confirmation bias, no doubt.
So in actuality, you have given no logical reason to concern ourselves with Christianity at all. Quite the opposite.
Conclusion
At the very best, your argument comes down to a gross neglect, lack of knowledge (I do not wish to impose upon you a judgement of either ignorance or nescience) and an illusion of grandeur. A combination of factors not boding well for the end result.
Alternative view
Rather than viewing it from a linear point of view, a better representation is what in the Rune writings is a Radho, or a circle.
When you were taught the prayer called: our Father, you were praying for the will of God be done, thy Kingdom come. yes?
You also know that ages pass. In terms of the bible, you may see this progression as well. The bull, the pre mosaic period, the ram: the mosaic period, fishes, the christian period.
Jesus even points to that when he says to his disciples to go into town and make preparation for the meal and look for a man, a water pitcher. That in and of itself is highly irregular, as it was considered a woman' s job. I wonder if he got more, the same or less pay than the woman who usually would do that?
He also says: In my father' s abode are many houses.
Astrotheology at its finest. 12 disciples, 12 Houses. (BTW: 12+1 = 13. Does that remind you of something? yes ...... 13 red and white alternating stripes,13 stars, 13 colonies, but I digress.) We know that every age equals to about 2160 years. And the age of fishes is ending and moving into the water-pitcher.
For a more minute description of passing ages, read this very interesting blogpost.
Man under influence
What is quite clear is that every age has a dominating trend, which is exemplified in the way of religion, culture and government. Franz Hartmann in his book Geomancy writes:
and:
Do you deny it? Then when you go to room100 and have a dump, think of the process you are both a witness and a participant and influencer in, and when which role kicks in.
Do you deny to be subject to the forces of Nature? What then prevents us from becoming aware of the more subtle forces we are subject to? Even the bible in Genesis tells us why the heavenly bodies are made. To measure time. At the very least you will grant the possibility there is more to it.
And with the current level of astronomical knowledge and measurements, we find confirmation of the system of knowledge we have inherited: the passing of the ages, the grand wheel. And just as much speed of light is unfathomable, the size and eminence of this wheel is hardly fathomable. But we do have a working model, which can aid us in our inquiry.
As an aside, it also helps us in becoming aware of our own spirituality. Not the spirituality we copy from other people, like Moses or Jesus, or Krishna, or some guru, but our own experience of the ultimate truth.
That is why Christianity in and of itself is a huge step towards a higher level of abstractness. Paul called it: " not walking through seeing but through faith" .
Christianity prepares the man for the discovery of the soul-state, as Paul writes in his letter to the Galatians about the fruit of the spirit. If you care to look, you will see two separate things: a state and behavior. The first three are the highest levels of being: love, joy and peace.
Besides, those who think Jesus to be the only "savior of the world", there have been many before this the latest iteration. Consider a couple of books:
Hamlet' s Mill written by by Giorgio de Santillana, Hertha Von Dechend
The world' s 16 saviors, or Christianity before Christianity written by Kersey Graves
This should give enough pause to at least suspect things to be a bit different than our modern programming allows.
Conclusion
So, when the age of Pisces is coming to an end, and the age if Aquarius is coming online, things will change. Where in past periods the spiritual people were far and between, and most were practicing a very material form of religion, the movement towards a higher level of abstraction is visible. This is not New Age. It is a fancy way of diminishing something, like conspiracy theory invented by the conspirators themselves: Clowns in America.
Yet, truth remains truth. Whether 10.000 years ago, or now, or 10.000 years into the future. You could try to hide it, yet there is always somebody who will reveal a path to it. That is the legacy we are given, in writing, but primarily in the capacity to make that discovery of truth ourselves.
If you want to remain clinging to the edifices of the past, and look towards external sources of salvation, then be my guest. I do hope you will find and/or remain happy. But when you are capable of identifying the times and recognize what these mean.
The problem with reliance on books from the past, is the translation and the limited exposure and experience we all have with it. Hence, our understanding of those books is limited. considering them to be the ultimate, is a limiting factor on our own deployment en development as a spiritual being.
The answers are not external, but internal.
The God of the Bible has issued an amazing challenge which ultimately equates to Future proves past.
Isaiah 46
9 Remember the former things of old: for I am God, and there is none else; I am God, and there is none like me,
10 Declaring the end from the beginning, and from ancient times the things that are not yet done, saying, My counsel shall stand, and I will do all my pleasure:
11 Calling a ravenous bird from the east, the man that executeth my counsel from a far country: yea, I have spoken it, I will also bring it to pass; I have purposed it, I will also do it.
Prophecy, and verification through witnessing the fulfillment of prophecy, is the reason my faith is not blind.
A prophecy that an ancient city would be destroyed isn't very convincing in and of itself.
Ezekiel 26:3-5
3 Therefore thus saith the Lord God; Behold, I am against thee, O Tyrus, and will cause many nations to come up against thee, as the sea causeth his waves to come up.
4 And they shall destroy the walls of Tyrus, and break down her towers: I will also scrape her dust from her, and make her like the top of a rock.
5 It shall be a place for the spreading of nets in the midst of the sea: for I have spoken it, saith the Lord God: and it shall become a spoil to the nations.
However, stating the city of Tyrus (Tyre) will be destroyed by many nations and cast out into the midst of the sea is a little more convincing.
The prophecy goes further as indicating Nebuchadnezzar of Babylon would destroy the city and after it was destroyed-
Ezekiel 26:12
And they shall make a spoil of thy riches, and make a prey of thy merchandise: and they shall break down thy walls, and destroy thy pleasant houses: and they shall lay thy stones and thy timber and thy dust in the midst of the water.
So not only would the city be destroyed, but the remains of its buildings, "thy stones and thy timber and thy dust," would be placed in the sea, "the midst of the water."
That's a fairly specific prophecy.
Nebuchadnezzar did indeed destroy the city of Tyre, but many of the inhabitants fled to an island off the coast and rebuilt their city there. So this prophecy was only partially fulfilled as the Babylonians left the stones, timber, and dust sitting there.
Now watch what happened 241 years later when Alexander the Great went after the island city of Tyre-
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FaVsRYTNqWc
Yes, well. ... ask any quail, except Dan Quail. And I could mention more of these quircks. The same goes for your logic.
I just told you: the answers are internal. instead, you quote binge from an external source, proving exactly my point.
Religion is one thing. The physical experience of worship. Who is being considered worthy here is a different matter and up for debate. At best it is the compliance with precepts envisioned by someone else. It is not YOUR spiritual journey, but the experience of the path of someone else. You are simply denying your value and worthiness as a human to have a unencumbered spiritual experience.
I gave you the example of the 16 saviors, of which 15 preceded your savior. No response other than a Quote-Binge.
My question is then: do you want to have a grown up conversation on different views on spirituality and the experience of it, or do you simply feel the need to defend the religare as drone?
I will now also give you a quote. This one is from Q. 4880: You awake, thinking for yourself, is their greatest fear. 4302: Expand your thinking. 4281: Do emotions affect critical thinking? 0777:Why is Big Pharma essential? Expand your thinking past cures.Think Google [new Pixel phone]. 4553:A public (person) that thinks for themselves [independent free-thought] is what they are afraid of most [loss of control].
With a special mention to 4535:
So, you could ask yourself, is there in your scripture any example of individual spiritual development? And what is a post-hoc-story and what advantages does that yield for political hacks?
And you thought this current o mi corona experience was new?
I get it. You tripped on psychedelic drugs and assume you learned the secrets of the universe.
You're not the only one whose had those experiences, and some have even had out of body experiences achieved strictly through meditation.
I'm here to tell you the Akashic Records are real and also demonic.
As far as individual spiritual development goes, the changes I've made in my life thanks to the power of the Holy Spirit working through me have surprised even my own family at times.
My spiritual experiences are not induced by dmt or lsd. I practice yoga and tai chi. Although, I would not be shy of engaging in such activity, mother ayahuasca has not called me yet.
With this said, it is not my place to judge your spiritual experience. Perhaps, you were not ready, or you received exactly that what you need to fulfill your life right now. It is for you to say what it means to you.
I did ask you whether you could name an example from scripture of individual development of spiritual experience. Bizarrely, you start talking about your own experience, which, were I to draw the logical inference from that, would mean that, based on the average human life span, you must have reincarnated somehow. Which in and of itself would be a funny yet unipolar consideration.
Maybe it is time for me to evaluate the score so far. When I do, I have to say, I do think you have a lot of knowledge on particular issues. Your logic is strained or absent. So, even the fun of intellectual amusement is absent.
I thank you for your time and effort. And thank you for playing.