How many coincidences before you believe? For many people, Q is believable only because of the combined unlikely coincidences, and future-proves-past proofs. Many know of Kim Clement, whose prophecies ring true even if they are hard to pin down.
I refer you to Julie Green, a prophetess who has been accumulating accurately fulfilled prophecies. Yes, she also has prophesied things which have not happened yet. But she has started posting "fulfilled" updates, and I think it's worth listening to her with an open mind and heart. Recently she said that the time between prophecies and their fulfillment would shorten, becoming a matter of days. She also has some really specific things that she calls out, giving her a clear pass/fail threshold with time.
Another nice thing about her is that her videos are short. She records her prophetic dreams, and then reads them later like a newscaster reading cue cards.
Here are her recent "fulfilled" videos.
Supreme court (4 min, spot on) https://youtu.be/nDNgqyQFUAY
Med Sea (3.5 min, true- but maybe hits a wide target) https://youtu.be/Fxy1aYXJZ0M
Handful of smaller, possibly ambiguous prophecies. https://youtu.be/vmBvcUipOwI (This is long, about an hour. Includes CNN downfall predictions from long before Fredo. But she references each item and cites the date on which she made the original prophecy, which is an admirable practice. I only list this one because it highlights her accountability; personally I'd start with the fresh ones and go from there.)
Recent prophecies include: "something will happen" to the Washington monument, that the Statue of Liberty will open to reveal hidden items inside, that Budapest will be prominent in the news, and that many politicians will have unintentional gaffes on live TV revealing truth. Should you see these, be aware that, with enough coincidences, it's not coincidence.
Here's her video today: https://youtu.be/Hl8cgUfPofo (20 min) And yesterday, specifically about AZ (8 min): https://youtu.be/ngO4jN7TvO4
The prophecy she references about watching for an avalanche of truth after your attention is drawn to the mediterranean sea is interesting. She made it on the 19th and then all the Putin hoopla reports on the 21st specifically references the mediterranean. Arguably predictable based on ongoing situation but it made me think of "Watch the Water."
Julie Green is awesome.
For what it's worth, I also follow Kent Christmas and Timothy Dixon. If the happenings end up happening in an undeniable 24-hour period anytime this year, Kent Christmas will have been proven imo.
It's not enough coincidences that should be used to gauge if it's not a coincidence, its the rate of success for predictions that would give weight to things not being a coincidence.
For example.
I can predict your death to the day.
All i have to do is a make a prediction for every day for the next 120 years and guess what. I predicted your death. I can then do that for the next guy too. At what point will everyone start to believe that after enough of these predictions about peoples deaths coming true, that it must no longer be a coincidence with me?
So to have some discernment regarding these "prophets", you'll need to look at the rate and also how vague the prediction will be.
Predicting something bad will happen to someone you care about, well sheesh, how many future situations will fit that prediction? Could be a kid with bad grades or the loss of a loved one, they will all fit a generalized prediction.
Predicting something happening to the Washington monument is a pretty easy guess after all the monument attacks that have been going on the past few years and the general hate America first crowd getting a voice from the MSM.
Practices discernment, it's really important with the deluge of information at our fingertips.
Largely agreed.
Establishing proof-positive that you're seeing something statistically abnormal requires you to understand as completely as possible the actual likelihood of the event occurring.
If I flip a coin 50 times and it's tails 48 times, I can accurately say that is not likely a coincidence. It could be, but we understand that there is an equal chance of either heads or tails, and there can be no other outcomes. It's important that we understand the most likely outcome (25 heads, 25 tails) and extrapolate from that whether or not we're looking at an unnatural pattern.
I don't feel like that is possible for a lot of the potential "coincidences" that are suggested here.
For instance, is it an impossible array of coincidences that the number 17 is mentioned as many times as it is?
The number 17 a small number within the useful and common numbers humans use every day. It would be weird to see the number 1,427,389 everywhere, because it's not a small, common number. But there are plenty of times when the number 17 can occur within our lives and have absolutely no meaning whatsoever.
I see it at the gas pump. I count 17 people in a random work group. My phone showed 17 minutes elapsed before I was taken off hold. And sometimes, 17 senators do something or 17 soldiers die overseas. I see it everywhere because I hang out with you guys, and 17 is important to you, so I see it, even though it's not remotely important to me. Because my brain is looking for it without me knowing.
Within a small range of low, common numbers (say, 1-50), how many times do you see any of those numbers at all? To know if 17 is showing up too many times, we'd need to know whether it's showing up far more often than 16 or 18. Anyone posting headlines with those numbers around here, just to make sure? That'd be useful research.
I know that not everyone is on the "17 is significant" bandwagon, but that's just demonstrating the problem with trying to analyze apparent coincidences that happen in real life.
It's very difficult to know what the "fail" conditions are for events that happen in real life, and chaos theory plus the sheer number of things that happen every single day make it very possible to trick yourself into thinking that something being more common than you thought (like the number 17 or the fact that people in power die and resign all the time) actually means that something is more common than it statistically should be.
Agreed. Plenty of charlatans in the world of self-described prophets. Discernment is key.