Yes, and yes. However, they score less well on creativity/ingenuity (avg). Which is a big factor in why we see their excellence in recreating tech, but very seldom do we see new developments.
That said, in an awakened world, it's tough to gauge how many preconceptions and generalizations were installed by the cabal and not traits ingrained genetically, socially or otherwise.
There is a test called Myers Briggs Type Indicator (MBTI), which uses a 4 letter code. E/I N/S T/F P/J. It identifies inate strengths and weaknesses. Everyone has characteristics of ALL of the letters, but in different proportions. So, a person may have a lot of Extrovert, and only a bit of Introvert. Or a lot of Feeling, and very little Thinking (logic). What I'm seeing is that these traits are inherited, passed down from generation to generation.
The N letter of the indicator is for intuitive, this is the creative letter, the head in the clouds type processing of information. The opposite is the S indicator, for sensing, which is for the hands on, immediate needs using one's senses method of processing information. Every letter combination has both strengths and weaknesses, and it isn't tied to race, sex, or country. However, if you have a group of S people all getting married to each other, odds are that most of their kids are also S.
These letters can be used to evaluate your skills for potential jobs. The majority of women are Feeling types, and it appears most Democrats are too, based on their demands that all decisions be based on "feelings". Whole cities, states and countries can be pegged as a particular type, though many individuals there are totally different types.
Most Emergency Room and police workers are S types; they have natural skills in using their senses to process information. SJ types are extraordinarily hard workers. ISTJ types are the natural accountants, and ENTJ types are natural CEO's.
My take on your post is that you're saying most Chinese are S types, and not N types. Skin color has nothing to do with it. So, not racist, merely an observation of skill sets.
That does relate as well, even though I wasn't specifically referring to that. So, yes, I suppose you could say that Asians (because it's a similar tendency across Asian countries) would tend more towards the S type. As with anything statistical, it can only be applied generally and has no meaning to the individual (except to say; because of X my odds of being impacted by Y is Z%).
As for nature vs nurture, the only solution is a weighting of both.
Communism encourages conformity and obedience while discouraging and punishing natural curiosity, creativity and the noncompliant. Some of the most creative and brilliant Americans are of Chinese descent.
That makes sense. They've kept themselves down with various forms of authoritarianism throughout their society's long existence. I think that explains the lack of creativity.
That feels kinda racist not gonna lie. Chinese people not as creative/ingenius as white people? Not sure I'd agree that race is a indication of mental ability.
Understandable. Not 'mental ability' generally but specifically creativity/ingenuity as in coming up with solutions that others would not think about.
Consider, a group that views the brightest bulb as best will see the focus on individual achievement, where a group that views the tallest blade of grass as the first to get trimmed will tend to have people that don't want to stick their head out. Keep that mentality for a thousand years and it becomes an ingrained "habit" that's tough to break.
Also consider, being able to note differences is not racist, but viewing those through the lens of "better or worse than" can become that. Just like pointing out that women are generally physically smaller is not sexist but saying that women are inferior because of their size, if not is closer.
Fair point, I just wonder where you've drawn this conclusion from. If it's from extensive experience working with Chinese people or whatever fine, but felt like you've formed that opinion on some pre-conceived bias. Thanks for a sensible response :)
It is a cultural point; they live in a culture which does not and has not historically fostered creative types. They have for centuries fostered obedience.
Whether this is purely a cultural phenomena or a biological one will not be known until they are free and years of allowing expression are allowed to happen.
Without the authoritarian lid on their creativity we may find their creativeness equals or surpasses the west. But we can't know the outcome for decades.
I don't remember where I had first heard/read that analysis.
If anything I've seen more to suggest that it's a concept with merit, look, the legit white supremacists don't gain support because the issues raised are without merit. (Although, white supremacy doesn't make sense when considering all generalized metrics because that would be like cheering for performing on the better side of average)
Yes, and yes. However, they score less well on creativity/ingenuity (avg). Which is a big factor in why we see their excellence in recreating tech, but very seldom do we see new developments.
That said, in an awakened world, it's tough to gauge how many preconceptions and generalizations were installed by the cabal and not traits ingrained genetically, socially or otherwise.
Sorry in advance for the wall of text.
There is a test called Myers Briggs Type Indicator (MBTI), which uses a 4 letter code. E/I N/S T/F P/J. It identifies inate strengths and weaknesses. Everyone has characteristics of ALL of the letters, but in different proportions. So, a person may have a lot of Extrovert, and only a bit of Introvert. Or a lot of Feeling, and very little Thinking (logic). What I'm seeing is that these traits are inherited, passed down from generation to generation.
The N letter of the indicator is for intuitive, this is the creative letter, the head in the clouds type processing of information. The opposite is the S indicator, for sensing, which is for the hands on, immediate needs using one's senses method of processing information. Every letter combination has both strengths and weaknesses, and it isn't tied to race, sex, or country. However, if you have a group of S people all getting married to each other, odds are that most of their kids are also S.
These letters can be used to evaluate your skills for potential jobs. The majority of women are Feeling types, and it appears most Democrats are too, based on their demands that all decisions be based on "feelings". Whole cities, states and countries can be pegged as a particular type, though many individuals there are totally different types.
Most Emergency Room and police workers are S types; they have natural skills in using their senses to process information. SJ types are extraordinarily hard workers. ISTJ types are the natural accountants, and ENTJ types are natural CEO's.
My take on your post is that you're saying most Chinese are S types, and not N types. Skin color has nothing to do with it. So, not racist, merely an observation of skill sets.
That does relate as well, even though I wasn't specifically referring to that. So, yes, I suppose you could say that Asians (because it's a similar tendency across Asian countries) would tend more towards the S type. As with anything statistical, it can only be applied generally and has no meaning to the individual (except to say; because of X my odds of being impacted by Y is Z%).
As for nature vs nurture, the only solution is a weighting of both.
Communism encourages conformity and obedience while discouraging and punishing natural curiosity, creativity and the noncompliant. Some of the most creative and brilliant Americans are of Chinese descent.
That makes sense. They've kept themselves down with various forms of authoritarianism throughout their society's long existence. I think that explains the lack of creativity.
That feels kinda racist not gonna lie. Chinese people not as creative/ingenius as white people? Not sure I'd agree that race is a indication of mental ability.
Understandable. Not 'mental ability' generally but specifically creativity/ingenuity as in coming up with solutions that others would not think about.
Consider, a group that views the brightest bulb as best will see the focus on individual achievement, where a group that views the tallest blade of grass as the first to get trimmed will tend to have people that don't want to stick their head out. Keep that mentality for a thousand years and it becomes an ingrained "habit" that's tough to break.
Also consider, being able to note differences is not racist, but viewing those through the lens of "better or worse than" can become that. Just like pointing out that women are generally physically smaller is not sexist but saying that women are inferior because of their size, if not is closer.
Fair point, I just wonder where you've drawn this conclusion from. If it's from extensive experience working with Chinese people or whatever fine, but felt like you've formed that opinion on some pre-conceived bias. Thanks for a sensible response :)
It is a cultural point; they live in a culture which does not and has not historically fostered creative types. They have for centuries fostered obedience.
Whether this is purely a cultural phenomena or a biological one will not be known until they are free and years of allowing expression are allowed to happen.
Without the authoritarian lid on their creativity we may find their creativeness equals or surpasses the west. But we can't know the outcome for decades.
I don't remember where I had first heard/read that analysis.
If anything I've seen more to suggest that it's a concept with merit, look, the legit white supremacists don't gain support because the issues raised are without merit. (Although, white supremacy doesn't make sense when considering all generalized metrics because that would be like cheering for performing on the better side of average)