First, I am Catholic, and so is this other guy.
I responded to him and asked, "Do you remember how you felt when the first news about Catholic priest abuses in Boston broke, a couple of decades ago?"
He replied, "I was sort of numbed with disbelief."
"Okay," I continued, "and have you ever thought about how such a scandal could exist for so long, not to mention other scandals? Have you ever thought about the power structure at the top levels of the church administration that manipulated things to keep all the scandals a secret?"
"I guess I never thought of it that way," he replied.
"Well, " I said, "do you think that the the Catholic church is the only entity in the history of the world to have a power structure, and secret scandals, etc.?"
Silence.
"And so," I added, "by simple extrapolation, I am confident that a relatively tiny number of people in the highest positions among the governments, corporations and other institutions are all busy pushing their agendas, and protecting their secrets. And if that's true, it's probably just as true that an even higher level of controllers are orchestrating things to their advantage and to further their agenda."
Deer in the headlights stare.
So you admit you catagorize her mother as so unimportant you demote her to a strawman argument instead of explaining why she isn't that important vs. is important to ask to pray for us? Ah how convenient. Also only through Jesus do you get communication to the father.
Show me where it states in the Bible we are commanded to inquire upon man, in reverence and faith, living or dead to communicate with the father on our behalf. That is something the other party is to take upon themselves for all peoples and they are to ask Christ to commicate to the father not any other proxy.
Also nice try with the misdirection you know I was referring to the command that Jesus is the ONLY way to speak to the father (not just solely for salvation purposes but also solely for communication purposes) and ONlY one who we are to have faith in to speak to the father on our behalf. But I think you knew that.. No man living or dead shall our faith rely on for this tasks. Period.