Pfizer vaccine data. Of particular interest is page 30: full pages of known adverse effects…
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I strangely agree with your overall argument, reddit slut. Correlation indeed does not equate causation NECESSARILY.
However, from what I learned in my Psychology Statistics courses, strong correlations are specifically measured to discover their respective measures of reliability and validity.
And therefore an enormous reason why these public health institutions CANT be trusted is because they outright refuse to explore in depth much less acknowledge the statistically significant amount of VAERS adverse events that occur after these covid vaccines.
And with the long track record of these SAME big Pharma companies of choosing to place their profit margins over their product safety, you would be a naive fool would outright ignore this very valid, irrefutable fact.
You make some good points. Here's what I say.
Strong correlations are important. They are not to be disregarded. In a statistics class, you tend to be given data specifically curated to illustrate workable correlations.
However, as you already know, real-world correlations have a lot more confounding factors than any classroom project, and correlations are therefore going to exist between an infinite number of things that are only remotely related to one another.
When you look at VAERS, you see a lot of bad things happening, and you think, "There is a significant number of bad things happening to vaccinated people."
But are there?
For instance, nothing bad has happened to me, and I was vaccinated earlier than almost anyone. I was boostered in October. I've had no problems, no symptoms, nothing.
I am not represented in VAERS. I have not submitted any reports. Nothing has been submitted about me. I do not exist in the data set.
Nor do any of my coworkers. Or my family. Or my friends. Or honestly, anyone I know. Nobody had anything worse than a shitty flu-like weekend and a sore arm, and even that was rare. None of us are in VAERS, because we're all fine.
So how exactly are you establishing a correlation of bad things happening to vaccinated people by looking at a database where the only population being studied are vaccinated people who have had bad things happen to them?
That would be like me creating a database documenting violence perpetrated by Q supporters, and then assuming that Q people are fucking nuts because I'm getting a bunch of reports of violence submitted by people who thought the perpetrator was kind of Q'y looking.
Assume nobody lied in my database, and most or all submissions were simply wrong about the bad guy being associated with Q. There's no fraud. Just incorrect assumptions.
My database doesn't show that. It only shows SUSPECTED cases of Q-related violence. It's a tip line for me to investigate, nothing more. Nothing's verified.
So would it be viable to say, "this database that only collects unverified reports of Q-related violence shows a strong correlation between Q beliefs and violence"? Or would that seem like a completely unfounded way of understanding the data?
I would call that a false equivalency, friend. For if there was a legitimate phenomenon of Q related violence, or even Trump supporter related violence, then I would not be here and I'd still be a passive, mainstream media believing, self righteous liberal.
In fact, it was my very observation that near everything bad that was being reported about Trump and Trump supporters, did not line up with anything I was seeing in reality (nor anything i was able to verifiably prove was being reported) that first caused me to question my leftist beliefs 2 years ago.
Secondly I'd like to zoom in on one of your last comments: "It's a tip line for me to investigate, nothing more. Nothing's verified." For me, and most of us on here, the fact that this "tip line", is being ignored and the people who are supposedly supposed to do this job are constantly being called out for deliberately being dishonest, purposefully obfuscating any real investigation, and insisting anyone who questions their motives is a "conspiracy nut".
To many of us, this is the equivalent of having someone hiding something behind their back after reaching into our wallets, and then getting angry at US for accusing them of being a thief.
The only way to regain the trust of the people is through complete transparency and full accountability for those who abuse the trust of the public for financial gain.
And until this actually occurs in all the areas needed, this glaring VAERS list will only appear to be more "on the nose", evidence of corrupt people in power who know they aren't tied to a system of accountability, and so they see no reason to care about our concerns.
I'm not seriously suggesting this notion as a truth. I'm trying to contextualize the strategy you're using to reach your conclusion when the conclusion is something less appealing to you. And we collect data specifically because "I can just tell by looking" is shown to be a remarkably poor measure of validity in most studies.
See, I disagree completely that the tip line is being ignored. The tip line is being monitored and heavily utilized in studies on a daily basis. It's the first step in a large number of studies.
Check it:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/?term=vaers
That's over 1,500 studies just with VAERS in the title of the paper. These are papers specifically analyzing something in VAERS or VAERS itself. That doesn't include the countless other studies of even greater proportions that utilize VAERS data in their actual analyses.
The problem is that DESPITE this heavy analysis, nobody seems as alarmed by what they're seeing as you think they should.
This is because the data is not really alarming. All the scary things in VAERS are symptoms reported following a vaccine, and actual VAERS analysis shows that almost everything that is investigated shows no evidence of vaccine problems, especially not serious ones.
I suppose it's possible that every single study is a well-funded fabrication by bribed Cabal scientists and that solid proof of the vaccine's danger from honest skeptical scientists is somehow being drowned out or suppressed so completely that there are no leaks, anywhere, even from random grad students.
But I have no reason to suspect that very unlikely reality of being true.
I think the same thing about most Q stuff. I look around and think, "How would the world look any different if Q was a prank by some dude in his basement?"
And I honestly can't think of anything that would look different.
Trump would be doing exactly what he's currently doing, which is political stuff and trying to take credit for the vaccine because it was actually a success that he's proud of.
Biden would be floundering because he was nobody's first choice and was just someone no liberal hated, but everyone is interested in replacing with someone better. And everyone really hopes it's not Harris because nobody is really into her.
Putin would be emboldened after years of relative friendship with Trump to push Biden, make him look weak, and bully the rest of the world by neutralizing Ukraine, which threatens Russia's border if they join NATO, which was always a goal of Ukraine.
There would be multiple attempts and multiple expensive failures to prove Trump right about election fraud.
All of this seems pretty expected without Q. All of this seems in character. Nothing about Trump's stance on Ukraine or Russia or the vaccines or how he's handled his post-Presidency is confusing without Q.
I understand there are a lot of explanations about habbenings, but if I'm to do what you did and ask myself how the world is different should Q just be a persuasive nobody who took advantage of confirmation bias for fun, what exactly should I be struggling to explain? What major deviation from a normal Biden victory should I be wrestling with here in this reality?
You won't get any argument from me regarding the second half of what you described. I will gladly concede, that the world looks just like what it would have, without Q. At least as far as we have the foresight to be able to conceive.
However I think that's a big reason I decided I like this community is because I resonate strongly with the leap of faith it takes to entertain the idea that Q is something much more than a gag gone too far.
Even with everything ive learned about in pursuing my Psych degree regarding such clevery deceptive concepts in social conditioning, learning/habituation/extinction principles, and all the cognitive biases that might indicate to me that i may simply be mistaken... that the way this world currently looks (as if it's missing a truly unique team of good guys working in the shadows) is just another day in the life of being ruled by crooked n corrupt, power hungry, sociopaths.
The notion that this observation demonstrates that nothing is out of place, and Q is indeed just a farce, and that i over estimated the true extent of evil in the world is something that I reject, not even necessarily out of overwhelming proof of what I can see with my eyes, but due to the overwhelming amount of proof I've felt with my soul, throughout this lifetime.
You can tell me that Q was a left wing psy op all along and I will actually entertain that if proven verifiable true one day. However I will never be able to concede that I overestimated the evil nature of man. To even attempt to do so would be a willful rejection of so much of my life experience.
There seems to be a few underlying constants amongst everyone who finds themselves on this site and embraces Q as a potential force of good, that I've noticed in the past year and a half I've been here.
First, all of us have an extreme immunity to group think and social conditioning. And secondly, nearly all of us have first hand experience with the exact level of evil that Q posits to exist. At least in my observation that appears to be the case.
But before I digress too far, I'll return to your mostly valid point that, the VAERS database is NOT being ignored. From the few bits you shared, I can concede, it certainly appears that the VAERS reports are being acknowledged to some extent.
And I'll also concede that it would be an enormous leap to contend that, "every single study is a well-funded fabrication by bribed Cabal scientists and that solid proof of the vaccine's danger from honest skeptical scientists is somehow being drowned out or suppressed so completely that there are no leaks, anywhere, even from random grad students".
Nonetheless, as crazy as it might sound to a logical thinking intellectual, most of us here will posit that this is indeed EXACTLY what has been done for so long by these enormous public health institutions that until very recently, had the full trust of the public.
There are so many countless examples of these giant, multi billion dollar, big Pharma corporations taking advantage of the blind trust of the public--the very constituents that make and keep them wealthy--as they place profit before their product safety and efficacy, and their honesty of the nature of their products.
Ex. For a very long time, benzodiazepenes, were described by this same scientific community as being a safe alternative for barbiturates, as a relatively harmless compound to treat a variety of conditions such as anxiety, seizures and insomnia. And it wasn't until just a few years ago that the full understanding of the dangers of benzodiazapenes were finally forced to be acknowledge.
No one was truly held accountable, it was mostly dismissed as an "unfortunate mishap" of the pharmaceutical companies who were still viewed as having "good intentions", those it affected were largely ignored, and life went on.
A very similar thing occurred with the Sackler family, the owners of Purdue Pharma, and their role in causing the opioid epidemic by allowing such a relaxed and misconstrued understanding of the long term effects of opiate use, to persist for so long in spite of the millions of victims who suffered and lost their lives. They were taken to court, paid out a fraction of their net wealth as a settlement, and life went on.
In 2012, GlaxoSmithKline was forced to pay out 3 billion dollars in total from both a civil and criminal lawsuit in which they were found guilty of: off-label promotion, failure to disclose safety data, paying kickbacks to physicians, making false and misleading statements concerning the safety of Avandia, reporting false best prices and underpaying rebates owed under the Medicaid Drug Rebate Program
In 2009, Pfizer was forced to pay out 2.3 billion dollars after being found guilty of off label promotions and kickbacks for their products: Bextra, Geodon, Zyvox and Lyrica
In 2013, Johnson & Johnson was forced to pay out 2.2 billion dollars after being found guilty of off label promotion and kickbacks for their products: Risperdal, Invega and Nesiritide
These companies have an undeniable track record of making hundreds of billions of dollars with the development of their products viewed as treatments with "good intentions", for a decade or two at a time, until the amount of their consumers negatively affected by their malfeasance and refusal to acknowledge the negative side effects, forces them into a lawsuit they lose, they pay out a fraction of their total net worth, and THEN their product issues are acknowledged
Now if you are going to tell me that these SAME pharmaceutical companies have the audacity to claim that a new product they've developed will be "different this time", without any way of knowing the long term side effects in advance, AND while receiving full immunity from potential litigation--the only means they've ever previously been forced to be held accountable in the slightest--then I will maintain that you are putting just as much, if not more, blind faith in these new vaccines, than anyone here is putting into Q being anything more than a farce.
In fact, the situation would be more equally comparable if multiple Q-style psy ops have existed in the past, been proven to be a farce every time, and yet we still continued to put blind faith that this next Q operation "is different".
So with all that being said, whether or not Q ends up being a legit operation, or ultimately just a cleverly construed farce, one would have to be completely naive to believe that these mRNA vaccines are actually "safe and effective", as they are being marketed as, and that the purposeful use of a person's vaccination status being used as a method of additional social coercion, is solely being done with benevolent intentions.
One of the most important quotes I'll leave you with is this: "The Greatest trick the Devil ever played was convincing the world he did not exist". The reason I know personally that the devil exists, that he manipulates people, uses them for his own dark self gratification, and then deceives them into believing he only had good intentions the whole time... is because I've personally experienced the unbelievable ease at which this is done to people.
The magnitude of dissonance that people express in response to potentially being victimized or manipulated was baffling when I first encountered it. Its almost like humans are biologically wired to deny reality in the face of being potentially manipulated.... and it only incentivizes that evil to continue.
I have been the devil before...But I've had a change of heart after experiencing my own microcosm of how evil perpetuates in cycles. And so a few years ago, I decided I didn't want to see how depraved I could be while continuing to get away with it, because it scared me how warped ones perspective can become.
I won't get into too much detail, but I've experienced first hand how much women let you get away with when they view you are rare, and perceive you as higher value. The boundaries of what would normally be viewed as morally reprehensible truly blur and fade away when you reach a certain level of desirability.
And I only got a taste of what people can get away with since I was never as rich or famous as these Hollywood icons or high powered executives and politicians. Ultimately though, I underwent a change of heart and decided i would rather use my first hand knowledge of how evil perpetuates and cycles out of control, as a means to purge as much of it from the world as I could.
With or without Q, I know deep down that the same evil I've encountered, continues to exist unchecked in this world, and I have a sharper intuitive ability to recognize its existence than the average person.
And so I feel compelled to do my part to continue to call out those corrupt powerful individuals who continue to take advantage of the trust of the public, and with their allies in Big Tech and the media, continue to obfuscate the truth and push the illusion that the evil I claim to see, does not exist.
I trust in God enough for it to ultimately not matter whether Q is ever going to do anything or not. For as long as I continue to do my part, I am able to sleep comfortably at night.