They did do an interview, I don't recall all the specifics, but it was contentious. Something about how Milo had been abused as a teen by a priest, Milo processed that as "he wanted it, and liked it" and to prove that to himself went about a gay lifestyle. Peterson pointed out that he might have done that as an ego defence to avoid the reality, that he is a victim who does not want victimhood, so his lifestyle and the way he remembered the abuse was more about denial of reality to save himself torment, than a true account.
Milo was offended by this idea, but subsequently we see he has absorbed it. Ultimately Peterson, I think, may have precipitated his conversion.
Peterson asked him to consider the abuse from the perspective of himself prior to the abuse, rather than as the "bullet proof" persona he developed as a defence.
Very very interesting timeline of events between them. Deserves a retrospective re-examination and has application to a lot of leftist ideas too (like how the government should provide for people, rather than they face up to their own sense of helplessness, and get their shit together and take responsibility)
I too think that leftist ideas can be "cured" because ultimately the hopes of the left and right are the same, by different paths, but the left path leads to hardship through a gate that promises fulfilment, while the right leads to fulfilment through a gate that promises hardship. It is a nut that needs cracking, and a journey down that left path (we are on this journey now) is essentially "the plan" so yay for us, but of course we will have to face the hardship and at the end, choose another path labelled more hardship, but that will eventually deliver us to fulfilment.... a paradox and a pain in the arse (no pun).
They did do an interview, I don't recall all the specifics, but it was contentious. Something about how Milo had been abused as a teen by a priest, Milo processed that as "he wanted it, and liked it" and to prove that to himself went about a gay lifestyle. Peterson pointed out that he might have done that as an ego defence to avoid the reality, that he is a victim who does not want victimhood, so his lifestyle and the way he remembered the abuse was more about denial of reality to save himself torment, than a true account. Milo was offended by this idea, but subsequently we see he has absorbed it. Ultimately Peterson, I think, may have precipitated his conversion. Peterson asked him to consider the abuse from the perspective of himself prior to the abuse, rather than as the "bullet proof" persona he developed as a defence.
Very very interesting timeline of events between them. Deserves a retrospective re-examination and has application to a lot of leftist ideas too (like how the government should provide for people, rather than they face up to their own sense of helplessness, and get their shit together and take responsibility)
I too think that leftist ideas can be "cured" because ultimately the hopes of the left and right are the same, by different paths, but the left path leads to hardship through a gate that promises fulfilment, while the right leads to fulfilment through a gate that promises hardship. It is a nut that needs cracking, and a journey down that left path (we are on this journey now) is essentially "the plan" so yay for us, but of course we will have to face the hardship and at the end, choose another path labelled more hardship, but that will eventually deliver us to fulfilment.... a paradox and a pain in the arse (no pun).