Don't know about the validity of this, but if it's true....
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Whatever happened to Discernment? It's my belief that any pastor that pushed the JAB is not right with GOD! They should have known it was the beginning of The Beast System! There are too many of these pastors that think going along with everything the Government tells them is just fine! They believe they'll be Raptured out of the world before anything happens! GOD has only removed a few people from the world! The Rapture happens after the Tribulation and the Mark will be around prior to the Rapture! Prove me wrong with Scripture and don't buzz over to Paul and recite Thessalonians and suffering wrath. John 3:36 “He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him.”
You wont get anywhere trying to convince the pre tribulation rapture evangelicals of that. Try a motivational speech!
Right.
The kazarians meddled with the Bible a long time ago as did Constantine ..pope's priests and others with an agenda. Did you know queen Elizabeth owns copyright on king James Bible? Francis bacon messed with it too and I would think anything about holy wars ..end of the world etc are all their doing as war was what they thrived on. Anything that doesn't point to all living in harmony following the golden rule of do no harm should be regarded as the work of people with an agenda
You’d think wrong then.
http://godandscience.org/apologetics/bibleorg.html
“Conclusion With all of the massive manuscript evidence you would think there would be massive discrepancies - just the opposite is true. New Testament manuscripts agree in 99.5% (5) of the text (compared to only 95% for the Iliad). Most of the discrepancies are in spelling and word order. A few words have been changed or added.”
Can't help you there....just because manuscripts agree doesn't mean Bible wasn't altered
lots of pastors preach pre tribulation rapture. Others argue for the mid or post tribulation rapture. I don't think it matters which you believe as God's grace covers that. My opinion, post tribulation. I agree with you but just my feeling.
I find that a lot of Pastors preach Rapture and don't spend any time, preaching about working the fields and spreading the Gospel! People need to know we're in the End Times and we need to reach as many as we can with the WORD!
I agree with everything you said except that you are attempting to nullify parts of the Bible as irrelevant. The Bible in its entirety is ti he our guide.
I agree to take the whole Bible not just parts, but pay special attention to GOD himself while here on earth for 33 years telling the Disciples all about these days in Matthew 24!
We're different because we ended up with Sin nature after Eve and Adam ate the forbidden fruit of the knowledge of good and evil! We go through JESUS CHRIST as our mediator, because he died for our sins and he was absolutely sinless and was our Sacrificial atonement for us to be part of GOD's Kingdom! People talk to GOD all the time and they hear back and are guided! This is just my opinion! The LORD has given me and my family Blessings and Protection, Mercy and Grace all of my life, even when I backslid for quite a few years! My backsliding was definitely sin nature and I chose the sin, instead of staying and following GOD's path of Righteousness! I came back to GOD and I devoted the rest of my life in service to JESUS CHRIST! I will glorify HIS name every chance I get!
Not at all!
The word rapture I don’t believe is in the Bible, however there are many scriptures describing it
no, I think it says caught up in the air in the twinkling of an eye or something like that. The word rapture is used to refer to that.
There are around 20 or so scriptures that I have found
Harpazo
Not the way many think.
The Bible does not say rapture. I use a Bible app called the SWORD. I love it because I can search any word or phrase (it also gives you root word definitions etc…. I honestly have learned more studying the Bible on my own with just that app than I have ever learned growing up in church. I know the app is $9.99 (one time) for iPhone. I believe it was well worth it, at least for me, even though I complained about it for the longest, lol.
Pulling this from memory "At the last trumpet" is when believers will see the 2nd coming of Christ. in Revelations by the time the last trumpet sounds all hell has broken loose on Earth and Much suffering and many, many fatalities.
IMHO, the concept of a rapture where Christians get taken up and miss the carnage is pie in the sky
Daniel 12:1-2 1 “At that time Michael, the great prince who protects your people, will arise. There will be a time of distress such as has not happened from the beginning of nations until then. But at that time your people—everyone whose name is found written in the book—will be delivered. 2 Multitudes who sleep in the dust of the earth will awake: some to everlasting life, others to shame and everlasting contempt.
Revelation 3:10 10 Since you have kept my command to endure patiently, I will also keep you from the hour of trial that is going to come on the whole world to test the inhabitants of the earth.
Matthew 24:30-31 30 “Then will appear the sign of the Son of Man in heaven. And then all the peoples of the earthwill mourn when they see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven, with power and great glory. 31 And he will send his angels with a loud trumpet call, and they will gather his elect from the four winds, from one end of the heavens to the other.
1 Corinthians 15:51-53 51 Listen, I tell you a mystery: We will not all sleep, but we will all be changed— 52 in a flash, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet. For the trumpet will sound, the dead will be raised imperishable, and we will be changed. 53 For the perishable must clothe itself with the imperishable, and the mortal with immortality.
You were saying……..
Yes I was saying and I stand by my statement. I never said Christians wouldn't be taken up to meet Jesus - I am very aware of the scriptures you quoted. Re-read my post and think about what I said, not what I didn't say.
Revelations 3:10 has been a deep hope of mine for decades . . . we shall see. he is talking to the Church of Philadelphia