I don’t mean to criticise, only point something out. I think ‘the average citizen’ is an invalid concept. You’ve got awake people and asleep people. Average it out, you’ve got half asleep people. That which a half asleep person wants is irrational and therefore irrelevant. We should ask what the awake Ukrainian wants.
You also have to factor in that the majority of Ukrainians aren't going to give their true opinion while the government is control and already showing a willingness to silence those that speak against them.
The Ukrainians I spoke to are pissed but not in the “Damnit Putin” sense but in the “I am angry we can’t be left alone & that NATO & Putin didn’t work this out.”
The general sentiment was even the ones that don’t like Putin are saying “he wasn’t really given a choice. They let Azov off the leash & NATO is too complicit to do anything”
What nobody seems to agree on / know is whether the intent was to openly leave Azov off the leash or what. They are genuinely freaked out that Azov is supposedly performing DNA tests for extermination or at least that’s a rumor that unsettles them.
I've read that a lot of Ukraine people want to be part of Russia. They're own government is a total shit show, Nazi's (actual Nazi's) are running the military, and they're tired of getting screwed over. Russia will offer them stability that they want and need. Russia is NOT our enemy and most of us know that. Ukraine government collapsing will and is destroying the deep states piggy bank and trafficking operations and this massively effects the corrupt elements in the US and other world governments. The massive lashing out at Russia over Ukraine is unprecedented by the West. People needs to start looking at the big picture and stop watching bullshit TicTok videos and falling for that propaganda,
I don’t mean to criticise, only point something out. I think ‘the average citizen’ is an invalid concept. You’ve got awake people and asleep people. Average it out, you’ve got half asleep people. That which a half asleep person wants is irrational and therefore irrelevant. We should ask what the awake Ukrainian wants.
The sleeping ones are picking up automatic weapons. We sort of have to care what they think. They're still willing to shoot at those who are awake.
I agree with that. I just sensed the question was more about the innocents.
You also have to factor in that the majority of Ukrainians aren't going to give their true opinion while the government is control and already showing a willingness to silence those that speak against them.
They have, some parts want to be Russia and some don't
Correct.
The Ukrainians I spoke to are pissed but not in the “Damnit Putin” sense but in the “I am angry we can’t be left alone & that NATO & Putin didn’t work this out.”
The general sentiment was even the ones that don’t like Putin are saying “he wasn’t really given a choice. They let Azov off the leash & NATO is too complicit to do anything”
What nobody seems to agree on / know is whether the intent was to openly leave Azov off the leash or what. They are genuinely freaked out that Azov is supposedly performing DNA tests for extermination or at least that’s a rumor that unsettles them.
I've read that a lot of Ukraine people want to be part of Russia. They're own government is a total shit show, Nazi's (actual Nazi's) are running the military, and they're tired of getting screwed over. Russia will offer them stability that they want and need. Russia is NOT our enemy and most of us know that. Ukraine government collapsing will and is destroying the deep states piggy bank and trafficking operations and this massively effects the corrupt elements in the US and other world governments. The massive lashing out at Russia over Ukraine is unprecedented by the West. People needs to start looking at the big picture and stop watching bullshit TicTok videos and falling for that propaganda,