To recap on the relevant part of the movie for this. In the movie, the final plan that Ramius and the Americans decided on (and the best plan if it were to work) was to have Ramius defect to the USA with the Red October submarine while convincing the Soviets that the Red October had been sunk and destroyed.
Ramius had an option to get off of the Red October along with the rest of his crew when he engineered the nuclear problem (see Part I).
However, he did not choose this option. Let’s imagine the chain of events had he taken this option. Moscow had asked the USA to intervene and shoot down the Red October on the premise that Ramius went rogue and wanted to fire nukes at the USA.
If Ramius had successfully defected to the USA and Moscow knew about it, Moscow would not be able to save face. Both the Soviets and the USA would know about the “caterpillar” technology the Soviets developed with the purpose of having nuclear warheads reach American shores undetected.
Moscow would then feel equally unsafe about the Red October being in the hands of the Americans. Nuclear tensions between the two countries would have gone through the roof and diplomatic relations could have broken down.
The consequences would have been incalculable. Ramius plan to remain inside the Red October to stage a “false flag” sinking of his own sub would have been the highest “yield” solution for both countries and for himself.
So how does this relate to Zelensky, Putin, Trump and the war in Ukraine right now?
My hypothesis is based on the premise that the current war is according to the plans of Trump and that Zelensky is not who he seems to be.
If you are of the view that Zelensky if simply a hypocrite or a defender of the deep state and are unwilling to entertain another possibility, then you should read no further.
First, the background of Zelensky. He was born and raised in Kryvyi Rih as a Russian speaker. He only learned Ukrainian and English afterwards.
His grandfather fought in the Red Army against the Nazis in the Second World War. His grandfather’s three other brothers all died by the Nazis.
Zelensky’s main platform for winning the election was to bring about a peace deal in Eastern Ukraine or the Donbass region.
Now let’s assume Zelensky genuinely wants peace in Donbass. When he came to power, what would have stopped him if he just wanted to make a straight deal with the Russians for peace?
The answer is very public now but it wasn’t so obvious back then to everybody in the West. The Nazis, Azov battalion, other rogue fighter groups, extremists in Ukraine financed by the US Deep State essentially would hold a legitimate Ukrainian government hostage.
Why couldn’t Trump just solve the problem himself you might ask?
Root out the evils in Ukraine while he was still in office and had power. Think about how dangerous that would have been for Trump had the current story not fully come out?
Kolomoisky and Soros funding of the Nazis would have done their best to push Russia into action in Ukraine. What could Trump do at that point? Bioweapons released for false flag attacks by the Russians, the media screaming Russian collusion.
It would be a horrible situation to be in. It had to be this way. Trump had to step away to let the Deep State reveal itself.
Now that we have the context of the whole situation in view, what can we begin to see?
We can begin to see what we need to get from this Ukraine war in the big picture of things.
We need to reveal the extent of Biden and Deep State corruption in the Ukraine.
We need to destroy the Nazi army occupation in the Ukraine.
We need to neutralize the biolabs in Ukraine to prevent false flags and another pandemic from happening.
There’s probably more that we cannot see, but what we can see is more than enough to paint the picture.
The evil that resides in Ukraine is our Red October.
Hence, Zelensky or Putin can fill the role of Ramius in our story.
Remember the posts that Zelensky was actually communicating with Putin in telling him exactly where to bomb?
Of course, none of this can be confirmed. There are things that will never be revealed to the public. But I have a feeling that by the time this war is over, Zelensky, Putin and Trump will have all achieved exactly what they wanted in the very beginning.
Zelensky will rid his country of the Nazi battalions that have essentially overthrown the regular army.
There will be peace in Donbass via a treaty with Putin.
Putin will have achieved a purge of all the US biolabs in Ukraine, secured a neutral Ukraine and peace in the Donbass region.
Trump will have shown the American people just how far Biden was willing to go to protect his corrupt dealings with Ukraine.
If you can see the big picture, you will see that it had to be this way and that the best is yet to come.
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Are you saying that Obama and Biden were and are actually in control, that they're not beholden to their DS puppet masters?
I don't think you are, but in that same vein zelensky is a place holder, your assertion that he has actual power to change anything while in his current position is lacking in evidence.
This theory isn't based on him having power in the first place. Why do you you keep thinking zelensky is anything but a puppet?
If he had actual power nobody would be entertaining this theory in the first place.
Lots of assumptions. Zelensky probably has no control over the Nazi militias (they despise him) and questionable control over his distant armed forces (extended comms have been cut by Russia), but he has control over what he says about things and what he can do locally. What he says are lies. What he can do locally is turn civilians into cannon fodder, which he has tried to do. He makes no objection to, or apology for, the fact that his armed forces and militias are conducting war crimes, so he is complicit in those.
Gonzalo Lira has the theory, based on observation of Zelensky's behavior, that he is being kept in a coked-up state by the militias in order to be pliable to their will (Igor Kolomoisky, his patron, having fled the scene). So, he has some kind of a "keeper" or "handler" and/or "pusher" leading him by the nose (literally). Who is guiding the militias? Interesting question, unless they have been allowed to go rogue on their own.
Just because someone is a puppet doesn't mean that they are free from complicity in the evil deeds that they facilitate.
Lira also expects a false flag event, based on the trend of propaganda in the west, creating a myth that Russia is losing---as a foundation for an explanation that they (the Russians) had to resort to a desperate measure to make up for their failure. That, of course, would imply some kind of coordination or synchronization between the Deep State and the savage idiots in Ukraine.
But I will maintain: If "white hats" permit Zelensky to perform / approve / countenance atrocities, they are NOT "white hats." And it is moral folly to go down that road.
I will concede this is one man's opinion.
With your same reasoning, try think why why did the white hats allow a stolen election, why did they allow the clot shot to be distributed if they knew it'll cause deaths?
These are all things we've know before, so if they allowed that to happen there must be a purpose right?
With the world in the clutches of the DS narrative how do you reach mass population Awakening?
Why would Q say that people need to be shown not told?
Nobody is saying zelensky is a good guy or that he is not at all responsible for shit, but you'll just have to accept that some very bad people have been flipped. Not to save themselves but most likely their families from the fallout. Some very bad people are going to be allowed to die "off camera" so to speak.
If I use your reasoning about what the whitehats should be doing, they should have made arrests after the stolen election, they should have arrested fauci for his crimes as well. After all if we could figure it out, then surely Trump and his team would have knowledge of who's guilty before right?
We are in the middle of a war for the hearts and minds of the entire world, not just a small selection of it.
Mass Population Awakening is the name of this game and it won't happen if you can't show people how deep it goes.
That's why I can entertain theories as outlandish as zelensky being under the control of whitehats. I don't need to accept it, I just need to be able to see this from multiple angles.
The flipping part is pure conjecture. When things happen and I don't understand...I wait for information. I've learned not to fill ignorance in with fantasy. Looking at a situation from arbitrary angles is not helpful, when there is only one correct angle, and nothing to be done but wait. Just keep your mind clear. Gotta be patient.
Likewise, just because the good guys may have been able to observe the election being stolen, doesn't mean they had the simultaneous power to prevent it. (The insertion of intelligence taps could have precluded any form of control.)