A quote from a famous 'Semite' in the past who was censured for saying it:
HELEN THOMAS: "No. I think they're wonderful people. They had to have the most depth. They were leaders in civil rights. They've always had the heart for others but not for Arabs, for some reason. I'm not anti-Jewish; I'm anti-Zionist. I am anti Israel taking what doesn't belong to it. If you have a home and you're kicked out of that home, you don't come and kick someone else out. Anti-Semite? The Israelis are not even Semites! They're Europeans, and they've come from somewhere else. But even if they were Semites, they would still have no right to usurp other people's land. There are some Israelis with a conscience and a big heart, but unfortunately they are too few."
She said someone kicks you out of yours and so you get to take someone else's, how does that work? She wants to know.
Do you have an answer for the witch?
I find it all relative myself, but her statement about 'semites' and the actual definition historically is hard to argue against.
DNA would settle it, but I don't expect that trend to happen.
So if I surmise your position, the Spanish get America or England does?
Or is that moot because the Celts get England back after the Vikings get back from who they'd taken it from, ad nauseum?
If we discover a neanderthal in Antarctica, can he claim North America in exile?
A semite can be any religion or none. The word jewish is a separate thing altogether, and the witch was saying that many of those pretending to be of 'semitic' origin were of European origin to be historically correct.
Islam 'got there' as an idea that spread from a resistance/reaction to the religious prescriptions of the Roman Empire, among other things.
In a funny irony of sorts, they claimed that their religion had been "Helenized".
In the end, I'm reminded of the tenet: "If you want to know who's running things, criticize them and you'll find out."
Witch ever witch is which, that was the end of one of the last journalists of courage in MSM.
Trying to decide if you're serious enough to respond to.
If you want to say every place in the world changed sides by force of arms, fair enough. The Jews won against Islam, so now it's theirs.
If you want to say some people have an ancestral attachment to the land, then Jews have that.
I often wonder ....
Mecca is the city Muslims pray to.
Suppose Mecca was conquered by China. They killed a lot of Muslims, threw many out, and destroyed much of the city, including the Kaaba. Demolished it into a pile of rubble.
Let's say China holds onto Mecca for 500 years.
Then China loses its grip on Mecca, losing it to a country that doesn't even exist yet. Let's called it Toobies to pick a word out of thin air.
So the nation of Tooby shows up, drives out the Chinese, and then takes over Mecca. The Toobys hold Mecca, we'll say 200 years.
Some Muslims show up after having been disposed. For 700 years they held the dream of getting back to their holy city. The get a bunch of themselves together, and drive out the Toobys, reclaiming Mecca.
Now the Toobys say: "Hey! What are you Muslims doing? That is our ancestral homeland! We've been there 200 years, you thieves!"
Would the Muslims care?
Or would they say: "Fuck you, this was our central religious point for thousands of years, heck we had it before you were even on the map! And we're home now, so fuck off!"
Which is pretty much what Jews get to say now that they returned to Jerusalem.
Not sure how to answer, because there are so many answers to the question "What is a jew?" for one, "What is the 'jewish' culture apart from historic stories that actually don't show the thread, what is a non-practicing jew, what would the term 'the jews 'returned' to jerusalem, mean to semites who never left and so on.
Definitively speaking, to qualify as a country/nation/people, one is supposed to show a history with some continuity, a define-able area, unique cultural features
and language. No people speak ancient Hebrew and Yiddish is a recent invention. Since none of it's self professed members of this 'race' of blonde redheaded brunettes of all races can Agree upon what a jew is, maybe "Creed" might be a better fit since it's equally generic in definition as "a set of beliefs".
Let's say Helen Thomas said that a Khazarian or a European or any non-semite convert is not a Semite and therefore doesn't have a 'homeland' in what used to be called Palestine, except by imagined myth?
What then? Is she right.....wrong.....or a witch?
You going to attack anyone who brings up what she asked, the same way she was attacked when bringing it up? It can't really be refuted in any rational way.
She's a witch doesn't qualify, nor does a hypothetical history example that never happened.
A semite can be a jew or a muslim or an arab or Luciferian Cabalist Zionist, or a non-practicing snake handler, or.....anything as long as he's based in the land of semites.
I find the infighting cousins in denial need another Guide For The Perplexed
Hints galore in all religions that the closer one gets to the inner truth that binds all things, that is the 'inner sanctum', 'chosen people', "the elect' and so on.
They don't have arguments, they discuss the cultural similarities in their understandings, not the differences due to its lacking.
"Bound to blood and soil" one is not yet reborn."
The Chosen of Israel is not an official group or religion.
Israel isn't even a place, nor 'The Promised Land' a physical site.
That is exactly why the Man of the Law, Ra Moses out of Egypt never 'saw' it.
He and his generations rest "In the bosom of Abraham", also not a place.
Hiram Abif lies a smolderin in the grave and the evidence of the true story is lost in the flood of disinformation.
The only common thread currently existing in the culture of Law and Literalism, is the Creed of Greed and the need to censor the truth.
A quote from a famous 'Semite' in the past who was censured for saying it:
HELEN THOMAS: "No. I think they're wonderful people. They had to have the most depth. They were leaders in civil rights. They've always had the heart for others but not for Arabs, for some reason. I'm not anti-Jewish; I'm anti-Zionist. I am anti Israel taking what doesn't belong to it. If you have a home and you're kicked out of that home, you don't come and kick someone else out. Anti-Semite? The Israelis are not even Semites! They're Europeans, and they've come from somewhere else. But even if they were Semites, they would still have no right to usurp other people's land. There are some Israelis with a conscience and a big heart, but unfortunately they are too few."
Glowing Downdoot for a quote by a semite.
Must be antisemitic.
THIS
Fuck that witch.
"You have no right to kick people out of their homes and take their land?"
Well, how do you think the Muslims got there, you stupid bitch?
She said someone kicks you out of yours and so you get to take someone else's, how does that work? She wants to know.
Do you have an answer for the witch?
I find it all relative myself, but her statement about 'semites' and the actual definition historically is hard to argue against.
DNA would settle it, but I don't expect that trend to happen.
So if I surmise your position, the Spanish get America or England does? Or is that moot because the Celts get England back after the Vikings get back from who they'd taken it from, ad nauseum?
If we discover a neanderthal in Antarctica, can he claim North America in exile?
A semite can be any religion or none. The word jewish is a separate thing altogether, and the witch was saying that many of those pretending to be of 'semitic' origin were of European origin to be historically correct.
Islam 'got there' as an idea that spread from a resistance/reaction to the religious prescriptions of the Roman Empire, among other things. In a funny irony of sorts, they claimed that their religion had been "Helenized".
In the end, I'm reminded of the tenet: "If you want to know who's running things, criticize them and you'll find out."
Witch ever witch is which, that was the end of one of the last journalists of courage in MSM.
Trying to decide if you're serious enough to respond to.
If you want to say every place in the world changed sides by force of arms, fair enough. The Jews won against Islam, so now it's theirs.
If you want to say some people have an ancestral attachment to the land, then Jews have that.
I often wonder ....
Mecca is the city Muslims pray to.
Suppose Mecca was conquered by China. They killed a lot of Muslims, threw many out, and destroyed much of the city, including the Kaaba. Demolished it into a pile of rubble.
Let's say China holds onto Mecca for 500 years.
Then China loses its grip on Mecca, losing it to a country that doesn't even exist yet. Let's called it Toobies to pick a word out of thin air.
So the nation of Tooby shows up, drives out the Chinese, and then takes over Mecca. The Toobys hold Mecca, we'll say 200 years.
Some Muslims show up after having been disposed. For 700 years they held the dream of getting back to their holy city. The get a bunch of themselves together, and drive out the Toobys, reclaiming Mecca.
Now the Toobys say: "Hey! What are you Muslims doing? That is our ancestral homeland! We've been there 200 years, you thieves!"
Would the Muslims care?
Or would they say: "Fuck you, this was our central religious point for thousands of years, heck we had it before you were even on the map! And we're home now, so fuck off!"
Which is pretty much what Jews get to say now that they returned to Jerusalem.
Not sure how to answer, because there are so many answers to the question "What is a jew?" for one, "What is the 'jewish' culture apart from historic stories that actually don't show the thread, what is a non-practicing jew, what would the term 'the jews 'returned' to jerusalem, mean to semites who never left and so on.
Definitively speaking, to qualify as a country/nation/people, one is supposed to show a history with some continuity, a define-able area, unique cultural features and language. No people speak ancient Hebrew and Yiddish is a recent invention. Since none of it's self professed members of this 'race' of blonde redheaded brunettes of all races can Agree upon what a jew is, maybe "Creed" might be a better fit since it's equally generic in definition as "a set of beliefs".
Let's say Helen Thomas said that a Khazarian or a European or any non-semite convert is not a Semite and therefore doesn't have a 'homeland' in what used to be called Palestine, except by imagined myth?
What then? Is she right.....wrong.....or a witch?
You going to attack anyone who brings up what she asked, the same way she was attacked when bringing it up? It can't really be refuted in any rational way. She's a witch doesn't qualify, nor does a hypothetical history example that never happened.
A semite can be a jew or a muslim or an arab or Luciferian Cabalist Zionist, or a non-practicing snake handler, or.....anything as long as he's based in the land of semites.
I find the infighting cousins in denial need another Guide For The Perplexed Hints galore in all religions that the closer one gets to the inner truth that binds all things, that is the 'inner sanctum', 'chosen people', "the elect' and so on. They don't have arguments, they discuss the cultural similarities in their understandings, not the differences due to its lacking.
"Bound to blood and soil" one is not yet reborn."
The Chosen of Israel is not an official group or religion. Israel isn't even a place, nor 'The Promised Land' a physical site. That is exactly why the Man of the Law, Ra Moses out of Egypt never 'saw' it. He and his generations rest "In the bosom of Abraham", also not a place.
Hiram Abif lies a smolderin in the grave and the evidence of the true story is lost in the flood of disinformation.
The only common thread currently existing in the culture of Law and Literalism, is the Creed of Greed and the need to censor the truth.