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I'm fairly sure Watch the Water is a psyop, but I'm curious and so I'll watch the damn thing anyway, just for the hell of it. I'll be posting my thoughts and reactions in this thread as I watch. Anyone care to join me?
posted 4 years ago by Death_Metal_Patriot 4 years ago by Death_Metal_Patriot +18 / -0

I got some good weed lying around so maybe this will be good for a laugh.

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– Death_Metal_Patriot [S] 5 points 4 years ago +5 / -0

Okay so first major thing I'm seeing here is they lead in with stuff we all know is true, then subtly slip in the false equivalency of both antivenom and monoclonal antibodies for coronavirus are exactly the same. They use that to shoehorn the narrative about snakes being the origin of coronavirus.

I mean, even though antivenom is technically a type of monoclonal antibody, I'm not really sold on the notion that all monoclonal antibodies would be effective. Antibodies typically respond to specific antigens...

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– RealCleanUpPhilly 5 points 4 years ago +5 / -0

I think what Dr. Ardis is saying is that the treatment is the same, using different but strikingly similar monoclonal antibodies for COVID and for snakebite.

He asked, "when have you ever heard of ANY virus being treated with MAbs?" The answer is there are some but a well known use of MAbs besides cancer and autoimmune disease is poisoning, esp. snake bite. But the viruses for which MAbs are used are CMV, RSV, HSV, and possibly Ebola.

Therapeutic Applications of Monoclonal Antibodies

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– Death_Metal_Patriot [S] 4 points 4 years ago +4 / -0

Okay, the whole drawing equivalency between the white-yellowish tint of remdesivir vs snake venom when stored is BS. There are a million yellowish-white chemicals out there ranging from baking ingredients to chemical weapons. He as a scientist should know better than to blurt out really obvious nonsense like that.

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– CoolAsACucumber 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

@fynn_fan (Researcher who has been censored several times studying the real effects of Covid and the Vaccines) saying its definitely not complete snake venom (very complicated and expensive to make). Refers to Jikky's thread about the possibility of the video being used to discredit snake venom peptides which are in Covid spike proteins

https://nitter.net/fynn_fan/status/1514110498702245888

https://archive.ph/evTgN


Jikky knows his shit. He discovered the 19 letter gene sequence Moderna patent in SARS-Cov-2. He's been kicked off twitter several times for revealing truth and has had to make a "Fan" account.

Here's a deep dive of threads of him exploring the snake venom peptides in the spike proteins.


@Jikkyleaks

Well this really interesting... Was #WatchTheWater an attempt to discredit the presence of "snake venom" peptides in the spike protein?

Why? What is the story they are trying to bury?

https://nitter.net/Jikkyleaks/status/1514104931560538112#m

https://archive.ph/qYZyD


Its trying to bury that the virus was man-made and strong evidence points around neurotoxin (sequence for same peptides as found in snake venom) in SARS-Cov-2 spike proteins

Now anyone trying to study that area will be called a conspiracy theorist who believes that Covid is snake poison. Its a essentially a comm to also cut off any funding for anyone studying that part of Covid.


Homology to neurotoxin peptides in the Spike adjacent to the Gp-120 inserts.

https://nitter.net/Jikkyleaks/status/1514083865555456009#m

https://archive.ph/3zsYi

Now anyone trying to study that area will be called a conspiracy theorist who believes that Covid is snake poison. Its a essentially a comm to also cut off any funding for anyone studying that part of the virus.

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– RealCleanUpPhilly 6 points 4 years ago +6 / -0

Ardis maintains that the research shows artificial manufacture of PART of the venom, not the whole thing. Otherwise this would be ridiculous. The WHOLE of venom cannot be reproduced, but just the most lethal bits have long been studied.

The idea is that the partial minuscule amounts are dose-dependent - such small amounts are used you get the symptoms of a respiratory illness not a blood thinning.

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– Mr_A 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

Ardis clarifies the meat of his argument in a different video that's only 20 minutes. 4-12-22: https://rumble.com/v10r8pq-dr.-bryan-ardis-snake-venom-update-its-not-about-the-water.html He also says, politely, that Stew Peters hyped it incorrectly, that Dr Ardis told him not to call it "watch the water." The title alone makes me think it's a psyop. But for me that implicates Stew Peters more than Dr Ardis.

For people who really want to dig, this is 2 hours, and he includes a lot of searchable sources. 4-11-22. https://rumble.com/v10myhi-4.11.22-patriot-streetfighter-interview-w-dr.-bryan-ardis-exposing-the-serp.html

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– s4tguru 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

from cliff high...

Watch the Water Someone may be pissing in it upstream of you...

clif high Apr 12

Comment Share The Watch The Water “documentary” is being passed around the net like a blunt at a Rastafarian dinner party.

Blunts are good. This ‘documentary’ is not good. In my opinion.

The principal player in this “documentary” is a Dr. Byron Ardis, who is a chiropractor and acupuncturist. This is a problem as the Doctor is touted as a medical doctor and practitioner, yet is not. So there is a presumed layer of ‘credentialism’ on this presentation from the start. The interview does not examine the education (not schooling) that Ardis undertook to be able to make these conclusions. There is no real background on any of the science behind any of the conclusions provided.

Propaganda! was my first impression of this video. The sound track, and the production values reinforced that idea. This movie was NOT made to simply present facts, or an opinion. It was made to SELL an opinion.

To what end? Why do they want to push this view? There is no science provided, just pointers to presumed social engineering and plays for emotionalism based on the viewers’ perspective on current events. In this, it would seem that this effort has been to target a specific demographic of people. Thus the tentative conclusion is that the producers of this video are working an agenda.

Yes, Remdesivir is a shit drug with a tainted history & not good results. Yes, the hospital protocols are killing people. This was known. The video sheds NO new light on any of this, but rather uses these as hooks for engagement with the rest of the material presented which is ALL about snakes & snake venom. All this material is based on assertions, not evidence, that Ardis makes as claims. He provides no evidence, but rather states his conclusions made with medical jargon laden descriptions, none of which are backed up, merely asserted as factual.

Mushrooms and venom of all kinds are two of THE MOST STUDIED biochemical compounds on the planet as they are also THE most reactive within human biochemistry. So it is natural that one may find either, or both, medicinal mushrooms, or venom, employed in almost ANY given medical procedure. There are quite actually THOUSANDS of medical treatments based on venom peptides. As far back as 2200 years ago, the Yellow Emperor’s Medicinal Compendium from China notes the effectiveness of dried venom from snakes as well as snails and sea creatures for medicinal use.

https://www.chemistryworld.com/features/from-venoms-to-medicine/3008360.article

Pick almost ANY medical condition, research into the approaches by all of medicine practitioners going back in time, and you will run into Snakes. Yep, sure and certain. There is a snake down there somewhere.

Ardis doesn’t bring any of this up. Maybe it is because, as a chiropractor, he is basically ignorant of medicinal history. Or maybe he wanted to present this information as though it was ALL targeted to covid. Maybe his goal is to push the idea that ALL the snake stuff was JUST for covid. Maybe he & the video want to use your lack of knowledge about how wide spread venom is within biochemical processes for developing medicines in order to slant the information to present a specific agenda. Maybe?

Maybe it is all clickbait at some level. Maybe the whole agenda behind the video is to warp the understanding of a particular segment of the population in order to further the policy agenda evident in covid. The Deep State does this you know. They deliberately pollute the information stream of the opposition in order to come back later to harvest confusion and sew doubt. It is a tactic in information wars.

It would be interesting to view a body language break-down of this video. There is disharmony being expressed between the words, and the face/gestures. This disharmony further degrades confidence in the presentation.

IMO this video is SO much a propaganda piece, that it begs the question of Who is trying to sell What to Whom and for What tactical reason?

One last point. Venom is highly reactive. This basically means that there are parts of all enzymes that will want to bond with elements (usually oxygen, but also chlorine and others) that will reduce its electrical potential. That is to say, make it more ‘relaxed’ and far less reactive. Thus the idea of dumping any venom, snake or other critter, into a water system is silly. Venom would encounter vast amounts of oxygen, chlorine and all the other chemicals currently polluting the planet. It would be very very unlikely that the venom would survive in a reactive state that would be able to injure your body. And, if the venom was made into a more water stable product, by that very process, it would no longer be reactive enough to cause harm.

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– brain_dead 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

Thank you, friend. This is a good explanation. I was going to say snake venom were used to make medicines.

Chinese use it, Indian from Asia continent use it, even German.

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– Tim_Drake 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

The bite that has no cure...

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