I'm going to disagree with this one. I truly believe that everyone has a right to believe what they want. If people want to believe in Lucifer, Islam, Christianity, Atheism, Agnosticism, Buddhism, ancestor worship, this is their choice. Whatever people want to do to themselves is fine by me. The line is when it comes to other people, you cannot impose your Will on another. Your belief does not give you carte blanche to inflict any harm on another. Demanding people illegalize certain groups because you disagree with their beliefs is the very problem we are fighting against. Freedom is for everyone and cannot be removed without due process. Be careful when stooping to the level of your enemy, you lose the moral high ground. Empty victories mean nothing and hold no value in the long run, even if it appeases your appetite today, you will gain no lasting benefit. We already have laws about inflicting damage on others, more laws is not the solution.
Clif High, on his latest video, suggested outlawing secret societies. Any open religion or groups are fine. He may be right. Its the hidden shit we have to worry about.
The only issue is figuring out who belongs to a secret society. The very fact they are secret makes it a bit difficult. Besides, how do you justify banning people congregating or banding together? I'm pretty sure there are lots of secret groups that don't advertise their membership or want their identities known. I'm also sure that not all anonymous groups are necessarily bad. Think of all the anonymous groups associated with addictions. Should we ban those groups because we don't have their identities? Who are we now? We want Identification from anyone that belongs to a group? Sounds like the polar opposite of what we stand for.
The way is to find people doing bad things and punish them. I don't think punishing everyone or curtailing the rights of everyone for the bad actions of a few is a great idea. It kinda got us here slowly over time. Now we have so many laws that ban everything from media hyped actions of a few and our rights have eroded so badly, there is practically no freedom left.
I'm going to disagree with this one. I truly believe that everyone has a right to believe what they want. If people want to believe in Lucifer, Islam, Christianity, Atheism, Agnosticism, Buddhism, ancestor worship, this is their choice. Whatever people want to do to themselves is fine by me. The line is when it comes to other people, you cannot impose your Will on another. Your belief does not give you carte blanche to inflict any harm on another. Demanding people illegalize certain groups because you disagree with their beliefs is the very problem we are fighting against. Freedom is for everyone and cannot be removed without due process. Be careful when stooping to the level of your enemy, you lose the moral high ground. Empty victories mean nothing and hold no value in the long run, even if it appeases your appetite today, you will gain no lasting benefit. We already have laws about inflicting damage on others, more laws is not the solution.
Clif High, on his latest video, suggested outlawing secret societies. Any open religion or groups are fine. He may be right. Its the hidden shit we have to worry about.
The only issue is figuring out who belongs to a secret society. The very fact they are secret makes it a bit difficult. Besides, how do you justify banning people congregating or banding together? I'm pretty sure there are lots of secret groups that don't advertise their membership or want their identities known. I'm also sure that not all anonymous groups are necessarily bad. Think of all the anonymous groups associated with addictions. Should we ban those groups because we don't have their identities? Who are we now? We want Identification from anyone that belongs to a group? Sounds like the polar opposite of what we stand for.
I see your point. It's good to have this conversation though. We have to find a way.
The way is to find people doing bad things and punish them. I don't think punishing everyone or curtailing the rights of everyone for the bad actions of a few is a great idea. It kinda got us here slowly over time. Now we have so many laws that ban everything from media hyped actions of a few and our rights have eroded so badly, there is practically no freedom left.